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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - matthieu1221 - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 01:53 AM)Radio_man Wrote:  

(01-03-2023, 11:43 PM)Rolling News Wrote:  I'm assuming Yalda, Lucy, Christian, Matthew and Maryam will be off air for the month of March while they prepare for launch date 3rd April. Which means we'll see much of Martine, Annita, Ben, Shaun etc in the mean time, and then, after that is, well is anyone's guess...

The BBC can't ditch all of the NC presenters who are left. I can't imagine the 5 "chief" presenters doing more than 4 or 5 days a week, so other presenters will be needed for weekends and potentially Fridays as well. 
Also, if Christian Fraser still stays on The Context at 9pm weeknights, then potentially an extra presenter will be needed from somewhere for a daytime shift.

Isn't that what the presenter-correspondant roles (yet to be revealed) are for? To help bridge the gaps in the schedule.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 02:08 AM)JayCasey Wrote:  Quick question to anyone who knows… who is it that’s presenting “Newsday” right now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariko_Oi 
She presents from time to time, when Karishma Vaswani, the main anchor since 2021, is not avaliable. Another common substitute anchor is Monica Miller.

UPD. Karishma even announced on Twitter that she is off this week for health issues:
https://twitter.com/BBCKarishma/status/1629984112650903552 

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - chrisherald - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 02:11 AM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023, 01:53 AM)Radio_man Wrote:  The BBC can't ditch all of the NC presenters who are left. I can't imagine the 5 "chief" presenters doing more than 4 or 5 days a week, so other presenters will be needed for weekends and potentially Fridays as well. 
Also, if Christian Fraser still stays on The Context at 9pm weeknights, then potentially an extra presenter will be needed from somewhere for a daytime shift.

Isn't that what the presenter-correspondant roles (yet to be revealed) are for? To help bridge the gaps in the schedule.

I thought those new roles were just a way to keep some people at cheaper rates, a technicality/process to evolve the jobs. Sometimes you have to "close" something to "open" something else, when it all amounts to parts of the same thing, with a new label on the tin at a different rate. Kenny Everett voice: We're not closing the news channel, we're closing two channels (!), to have one new channel, with two streams (and four wizards!), that sort of nonsense. It's a party trick, a slight of hand, a misdirection. But I'm guessing, someone else will know more.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 02-03-2023

(01-03-2023, 08:47 AM)chrisherald Wrote:  I do wish the Singapore hours would be revamped into something more worthwhile

The key question that bugs me about Newsday is - what makes Singapore output look at times so unsure of itself and somewhat clumsy?
Is it the slightly outdated studio? The always-sitting format of the bulletin? Both of them can be found in regional newscasts.
For some reason I do not have that feeling with another overseas program, World News America - it has this fast-paced, self-confident feeling that evades Newsday.
May be it is the slow connection between the studio in Singapore and the gallery in London that results sometimes in these awkward pauses with the presenter silently looking right into the camera for a good couple of seconds?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - chrisherald - 02-03-2023

Network latency certainly a factor, but not impossible to overcome, see Katty and Christian; it can be learned to compensate. I would think Singapore is not set up with the operational capacities of BBC facilities in the UK, GFX aren't all done there, and the presenter is likely self-advancing many of the show elements (I assume). This rigidity is felt by the viewer. DC was perhaps similar but improvements in production tooling have been made, perhaps largely thanks to election coverage. (Though I still hate both the new and old set. I'd rather DC look like Singapore.) To be fair, sometimes things do just feel a bit tired on the output from SG. I think sometimes presenters are a just bit tired too. You know the guy who does breakfast sport, I don't really think he likes mornings. To be clear, I like the presenters in SG, but there may be environmental factors for them that result in slightly lackluster presence; perhaps the SG office doesn't have a buzz to it, an energy to feed off of, like all performers need. (Why is a concert good in some cities, bad in others; (venue/audience) vibes man)

And, how much of the journalism is originating from Singapore, does the presenter (and in-office team) feel any sense of ownership of the output or stories they tell, the DC office telling US stories, they likely produced those. A BBC for a new age must empower every person at every level of the signal chain to feel ownership in what's going out.

It may also be the colour grade of the SG output, there is a different visual tone to the studio, perhaps given the windows! (Make the windows darker like AJE London, more ND filter film or whatever!) As well, many of us are watching the daytime studio output during what is often our nighttime, so perhaps the visual-emotional feeling for us as viewers is a bit jet lag like.

And (cause I love starting sentences with and), of course, the lesser the technical footprint of the SG office, the smaller the team, the less empowered they will feel to "leap off the page." If you don't feel like the folks in your office/production-team-and-automation-tooling are ready to deal with anything, you're gonna be very careful before you hit the "take next" button on your remote or console (if we had a robot camera in SG and it breaks, who fixes it? Better be careful with everything!).

There is perhaps also the issue of the UK being asleep! DC has the benefit of the wider apparatus of the BBC being mostly awake, so feeds can (as they may already exist for other later-evening UK programs) be shared with the US from NBH, the US rundowns will/can be more lively, with more remotes coming in. SG gets stuck with a rather dull format of packaged content, far less live elements than other hours of news channel output. It's perhaps just less exciting for a presenter to head that sort of hour, than something more fully supported.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - JamesWorldNews - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 02:08 AM)JayCasey Wrote:  Quick question to anyone who knows… who is it that’s presenting “Newsday” right now?

Mariko Oi. Long term presenter on BBC World Business. Now based in Singapore. Previously New York and London.

Mariko was the “business” deputy of Rico Hizon in Singapore, back in the day.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Newsroom - 02-03-2023

I can find any literature that would lead me to think the new BBC News will be retaining The Context, Outside Source or Newsday. The other shows such as Live with, impact and Global are gone as of today (2/3/23.

From April we've been told we're getting a brand new schedule and with the drips we've been told already I can't the new setup allowing for any programmes to exist in their current form.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Worzel - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 02:44 AM)chrisherald Wrote:  

(02-03-2023, 02:11 AM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  Isn't that what the presenter-correspondant roles (yet to be revealed) are for? To help bridge the gaps in the schedule.

Kenny Everett voice: We're not closing the news channel, we're closing two channels (!), to have one new channel, with two.

Funnily enough, that's almost word for word how Tim Davie described it at a select committee evidence session only a few months ago! 

Skip along to 1:07:07 on this video...

https://youtu.be/l3Rm--Oc2Hg 

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - chrisherald - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 10:00 AM)Worzel Wrote:  

(02-03-2023, 02:44 AM)chrisherald Wrote:  Kenny Everett voice: We're not closing the news channel, we're closing two channels (!), to have one new channel, with two.

Funnily enough, that's almost word for word how Tim Davie described it at a select committee evidence session only a few months ago! 

Skip along to 1:07:07 on this video...

https://youtu.be/l3Rm--Oc2Hg 

No I know I've watched it

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Radio_man - 02-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 07:23 AM)Newsroom Wrote:  I can find any literature that would lead me to think the new BBC News will be retaining The Context, Outside Source or Newsday. The other shows such as Live with, impact and Global are gone as of today (2/3/23.

From April we've been told we're getting a brand new schedule and with the drips we've been told already I can't the new setup allowing for any programmes to exist in their current form.

Aren't both World & the NC operating as normal until Friday 3/3 at 7pm?
So Live and Global air for the last time today (Thurs 2/3) and Impact airs for the last time tomorrow (Friday 3/3)

Meanwhile, Outside Source and The Context remain in the schedules for the next few weeks at least during the joint operation throughout March.

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