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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 12:44 AM)JayCasey Wrote:  We also have BBC.com and @bbcworld on the ticker. Is that normal on normal BBC News channel overnights?

This happens from time to time on overnights, you might once in a while even get THE CLOCKS!

(28-01-2023, 02:56 AM)oscillon Wrote:  

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - JayCasey - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 01:09 AM)oscillon Wrote:  

(04-03-2023, 12:44 AM)JayCasey Wrote:  We also have BBC.com and @bbcworld on the ticker. Is that normal on normal BBC News channel overnights?

This happens from time to time on overnights, you might once in a while even get THE CLOCKS!

(28-01-2023, 02:56 AM)oscillon Wrote:  

The ticker is very much international news though!

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ginnyfan - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 12:03 AM)JayCasey Wrote:  The 11pm hour was a bit of a shambles with the ticker and clock on during the countdown and then on and off during the headlines.

Don’t know whether this is controlled by what would have been the news channel team but looked very disjointed to watch.

Couldn't get it from the start, the actual beginning looked good with Newsday intro swirl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drPl-XucUiA 

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - thevaran - 04-03-2023

(03-03-2023, 09:05 PM)interestednovice Wrote:  Newsday also broke ranks with it’s intro, with a reference too. “This is BBC World News, live from London and Singapore, it’s Newsday”. Again, the sort-of excuse there was it was output from Singapore, so worked in a way as it was obvious “world news”.

Now the presenters say "You're watching Newsday on the BBC". Just the BBC, not BBC World News or BBC News. They've done so for a long time.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - thevaran - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 01:09 AM)oscillon Wrote:  

(04-03-2023, 12:44 AM)JayCasey Wrote:  We also have BBC.com and @bbcworld on the ticker. Is that normal on normal BBC News channel overnights?

This happens from time to time on overnights, you might once in a while even get THE CLOCKS!

(28-01-2023, 02:56 AM)oscillon Wrote:  

The clocks are also present when BBC (World) News is shown on PBS stations in America.

They're absolutely misleading since those re-broadcasts are never shown live on PBS, there's at least one hour tape delay.  

They should skip the clocks during hours that are re-broadcast on PBS.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Jeff - 04-03-2023

(03-03-2023, 07:00 PM)Newsroom Wrote:  

(03-03-2023, 06:58 PM)Rolling News Wrote:  No surprise to no on air mention. Just ending the hour the same as any other hour.

Bonkers when you think a long serving presenter - Joanna Gosling was given the sign off she deserved, as was Simon McCoy. 

Oh well, this is the BBC we've got now.

You're comparing an apple and oranges situation though. The departure of a long-serving and loyal presenter should be acknowledged in a meaningful way. On the other hand, a news channel undergoing a revamp that will ultimately result (despite what the ridiculously hysterical hyperbole in this thread would suggest) in it still providing a suitable news service for the average viewer is something that doesn't require a big song and dance.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - damian - 04-03-2023

Here’s an example from ginnyfan of a “bbc world news” toth that’s feels in appropriate. Very little relevance to the world very uk centric everything they were covering and name titles of parliament members.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jil_OOFNLRM&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE 

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - chrisherald - 04-03-2023

Regarding, "ridiculously hysterical hyperbole in this thread" and "still providing a suitable news service for the average viewer":

It's difficult to know if Radio on the TV (for example) is a suitable news service for the average viewer (I mean, they've got a radio if they want to listen to radio!). Really these things can't be fully known until the full operation goes live in April. It is reasonably safe to say, already at this point, any reduction in staff numbers would lead to a more resource strained work environment, with some detrimental impact on either output, newsgathering, or quite simply, morale. There will be new opportunities, but in a very different environment. The people that have left/been lost, you (would) feel that, in the air, in the buildings. A lot can be automated/workflowed, pool feeds, etc, but when does live TV lose it's "buzz" (the empty newsroom) and commercial pressures (not even "influence" or "bias" per say) hamper the efforts of even the good-hearted to tell stories that matter. Frankly, I've seen local US TV news outlets go to sh*t over the past decade from the corporate evolution in broadcasting and staff numbers (on-air talent is just tired and lifeless, the station got dull). TV's not (as) fun anymore. When the BBC becomes hollow, what does it mean "to work for the BBC!" Workplace culture matters to what we get on our screens, it matters when people show up outside the building in the morning. Some of the BBC folks, they post on Twitter, photos outside the various buildings when walking in. Look at those photos and ask, "what are they showing up for, how does it feel to be them", to walk into a BBC that's somehow (worth) less everyday despite everyone working harder, trying more. Less certainty of their own future there, fewer people working alongside you, fewer meaningful relationships that can form. Fewer stories to tell looking back over a lifetime. Who will be there to celebrate them when they "retire" or will they fade silently from the screens during that "eternal simulcast" (h/t ginnyfan!) we've talked about?

Will viewers notice? They will when it's (all) gone one day. If there's anyone left to remember what we had, or could have had. It's not just about the News Channel, even if that is our core presentation concern.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - damian - 04-03-2023

I never realised how trash the current world news background actually is. Caps thanks to Ginnyfan. 

The old one is so much nicer and perspective wise it’s almost convincing that their newsroom is off in the distance behind Tim. The current is just sh*tē.  

       

       

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - UTVLifer - 04-03-2023

One thing I am looking forward to is hopefully seeing E lit up in blue for WBR from next week

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