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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Newsroom - 04-03-2023

Not sure I’ve ever seen Studio E totally powered down. And I’m sure I’ve only ever seen the desk covered in the World Countdown.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Radio_man - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 07:04 AM)Jeff Wrote:  

(03-03-2023, 07:00 PM)Newsroom Wrote:  Bonkers when you think a long serving presenter - Joanna Gosling was given the sign off she deserved, as was Simon McCoy. 

Oh well, this is the BBC we've got now.

You're comparing an apple and oranges situation though. The departure of a long-serving and loyal presenter should be acknowledged in a meaningful way. On the other hand, a news channel undergoing a revamp that will ultimately result (despite what the ridiculously hysterical hyperbole in this thread would suggest) in it still providing a suitable news service for the average viewer is something that doesn't require a big song and dance.

Yes, and that's why there was no on-air mention of anything changing yesterday, because for the average viewer, nothing is changing. The channel will have its usual service "for viewers in the UK and around the world" this weekend and will be back on Monday in the same studio, with the usual presenters, with the same name, with the latest news. There will just be more international stories.

Even if there had been an on-air acknowledgement, how would've it been handled? "That's the end of the BBC News Channel after 25 years, here's some highlights.........but we're not going anywhere and we'll continue to bring you all the latest news with the same presenters, from this same studio, and we'll still called the BBC news channel, next week. The News at Six is up next and then we'll continue to bring you all the latest news throughout the evening........but that's it from the News Channel after 25 years, but really it isn't........" 

It would've been impossible to explain on-air to the average viewer what's changing without causing major confusion, which is why it wasn't acknowledged, apart from on twitter by producers.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ALV - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 10:37 AM)Radio_man Wrote:  Yes, and that's why there was no on-air mention of anything changing yesterday, because for the average viewer, nothing is changing. The channel will have its usual service "for viewers in the UK and around the world" this weekend and will be back on Monday in the same studio, with the usual presenters, with the same name, with the latest news. There will just be more international stories.

Even if there had been an on-air acknowledgement, how would've it been handled? "That's the end of the BBC News Channel after 25 years, here's some highlights.........but we're not going anywhere and we'll continue to bring you all the latest news with the same presenters, from this same studio, and we'll still called the BBC news channel, next week. The News at Six is up next and then we'll continue to bring you all the latest news throughout the evening........but that's it from the News Channel after 25 years, but really it isn't........" 

It would've been impossible to explain on-air to the average viewer what's changing without causing major confusion, which is why it wasn't acknowledged, apart from on twitter by producers.

Agreed. I think a subtle vague acknowledgment would be a perfect balance in between not wanting to confuse a general viewer and showing a mark of remembrance. Sometimes saying very few can reflect a lot in meaning:

"That's all from us. Reeta is coming up with the News at Six, but first we'll have the weather with Elizabeth. Thank you for watching the BBC News Channel, goodbye."(Goodbye in a soft voice) *Cut to weather*

A simple and elegant, vague yet remarkable send off to this 25 year history of domestic operation.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - chrisherald - 04-03-2023

It is somewhat easy to say, "Finally, you may have noticed some changes to the faces on your screens here on BBC News. Due to government-influenced (semi-hostile, semi-political) budget-driven factors, we've forced out many long time employees and shifted other staff to lower-paid and new-scoped roles, so that we can offer, at any given random point in time, ultimately a less capable and less resilient news output, by way of staff and scheduling, production tooling, and news gathering re-prioritization (fit for the digital Netflix age!). Whether you join us on-air, or online, via a "stream" or something else, we at the BBC hope you'll find new ways to be unhappy with our offering, that you probably aren't even paying for. Today marks the end of the BBC News Channel brand as it has existed since BBC News 24 began, and marks a new chapter of evolution and probable decline for the BBC. We hope you'll stay with us, here at the BBC, as we strive to deliver, eh, more of less, let's say. To viewers in the UK, on PBS in America, and around the world, *shuffles papers* uh, who knows what you're watching anymore. News at six is probably next, for some of you. No, I don't know where you can watch Focus on Africa. (and no, we haven't fired Gary for those of you who keep asking) (Also goodbye to viewers on BBC Two, you'll get the radio next, probably Capital or XFM)"

That's easy enough, clear enough for most viewers to understand, little room for confusion. Can be said in under 2 minutes with a nice photo montage of BBC staff going away parties and cakes.

If they wanted to give a cheeky nod to us die hard fans, double headed presentation would have been the ticket (someone unpaid for the hour could have just dropped-in on-screen for the goodbye, maybe someone already on the way out the door). (Jane and Matthew would, of course, have been the dream, despite them not leaving.)

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - harshy - 04-03-2023

I read on Twitter somewhere there will be some sort of acknowledgment programme detailing the channel from its start unless I imagined it if course.

Likelihood is they may be some acknowledgement before the big launch and they will probably spin it to say you are watching the most watched international news channel, this is BBC News, stay tuned for all the top stories from the UK and around the world maybe?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - chrisherald - 04-03-2023

Yeah there will probably be some 30 second highlight thing (a snippet of the colorful flags) introducing the new thing as a natural evolution of the old (be careful not to show the faces of those that are gone), rather than a dramatic resource restructuring, driven simultaneously by complex necessity and undue destructive force.

but any kind of on-screen acknowledgment of the change would be the decent thing to do, in respect of audiences and the fact that the BBC does aim to play a vital role in public discourse. It feels like sweeping it under the rug otherwise, and it makes what should seem like (or is to be presented as) a positive and pivotal change, instead a dark and dirty secret. Of course how pivotal can it be if it's not a substantial change for ofcom purposes. How do we say oh we're making necessary changes that totally suit the BBC for the future while at the same time saying oh it's nothing we're not even going to mention it. Sigh.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Jimbo2022 - 04-03-2023

I do remember when BBC went on strike a few years back and world was broadcast in UK and the presenters were virtually unknown to us then but cannot remember when it was

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ginnyfan - 04-03-2023

Another overnight presenter??

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - London Lite - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 12:54 PM)ginnyfan Wrote:  Another overnight presenter??

That looks like Louisa Pilbeam, who occasionally reports on South East Today as a freelancer.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 12:54 PM)ginnyfan Wrote:  Another overnight presenter??

She is Louisa Pilbeam, and if i got it right, she worked previously as a correspondent, not an anchor.
https://twitter.com/LouisapilbeamTV/status/1625048766431518720 

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