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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 04-03-2023

(03-03-2023, 06:28 PM)ALV Wrote:  Currently, it's usually the morning shift team who handle the lunchtime bulletins. The team finishes at 12:30PM in Studio C on NC/WN and then moves to Studio E for BBC One at 1PM.

Sometimes if the bulletin is scheduled at 12PM, the afternoon shift team will handle it. They'll be in Studio E for BBC One at 12PM, and then do the NC/WN shift in Studio C at 1PM.

I expect the arrangement will continue, at least during the transition period.

Today the lunchtime bulletin at 1PM was handed by the afternoon team, with Luxmy Gopal first presenting the bulletin and then going to present the WN/NC simulcast from 2PM.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - interestednovice - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 01:55 AM)thevaran Wrote:  

(03-03-2023, 09:05 PM)interestednovice Wrote:  Newsday also broke ranks with it’s intro, with a reference too. “This is BBC World News, live from London and Singapore, it’s Newsday”. Again, the sort-of excuse there was it was output from Singapore, so worked in a way as it was obvious “world news”.

Now the presenters say "You're watching Newsday on the BBC". Just the BBC, not BBC World News or BBC News. They've done so for a long time.

Yes, I know.

I was just saying that the dual-anchored Newsday did use a different intro and was one of the few programmes regularly simulcast to mention the branding BBC World News. I think that was clear in the context of my whole post, but apologies if it wasn’t.

I know they don’t use the same intro any more; they can’t of course because they are no longer live from Singapore and London!

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harshy - harshy - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 10:15 AM)UTVLifer Wrote:  One thing I am looking forward to is hopefully seeing E lit up in blue for WBR from next week

Is it gonna come from Studio E? I thought it was Studio C with the occasional appearance of Studio E on a weekend ?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Kojak - 04-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 10:13 PM)harshy Wrote:  

(04-03-2023, 10:15 AM)UTVLifer Wrote:  One thing I am looking forward to is hopefully seeing E lit up in blue for WBR from next week

Is it gonna come from Studio E? I thought it was Studio C with the occasional appearance of Studio E on a weekend ?

(23-02-2023, 11:52 PM)bbctvtechop Wrote:  The output will be fully joined from March 6th with a full launch date of April 3rd. During this transition period, there will be no planned facility for breaking UK news.

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0900-1900 from Studio E, evenings and overnight from C during the transition period. Then at launch everything will comr from C with UK opt outs from A. 

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - all new phil - 05-03-2023

So for the One, the news channel gets kicked out of E and into C. Why don’t they just do the One from C?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - interestednovice - 05-03-2023

All part of the pretence, for the average Joe viewer, that nothing has changed I suppose!

Also, this is the BBC we are talking about. They don’t like to change too many things at once!

During the transition, the “new channel” arrangements have already started but the idea is for nobody to notice this. WN viewers have now had a loosely mock-Studio E background for a while now, NC viewers have largely seen Studio E or Studio C in the same mock mode for the vast majority of the time lately, even with the increased levels of simulcasting.

From Monday, to the extremely casual viewer it will appear as though nothing has changed on the NC as they will be in the same studio with presenters largely drawn from the “pool” of NC and not-headline WN presenters who also appear on NC since they don’t have their own show. So familiar presenters in a familiar studio, with no changes to graphics or sets. A very slight level of changes editorially, but probably not immediately noticeable compared to, say, the 10am fudge hour last week.

For WN viewers, the change is potentially more noticeable as it appears that there will be no branded shows. However, the branded shows do go on hiatus over Christmas and New Year, so do not continuously appear, and it will really only be like that. They’ll already be used to the brand “BBC News”, so will hardly notice it, and again I am assuming that there will be no immediate change to graphics so the BBC World News name will still show in the lower thirds, etc. The presenters will not be the normal WN “A team”, but will largely be people known to them. The background, superficially, looks similar and if viewers had already seen the 10am fudge hour then it will be totally familiar.

This essentially hides the merger from both audiences in the short term and frees up Studio C in the daytime for continued experimentation and piloting of the “new channel’s new style”. They then have the whole day in there, except for the hour used by the live channel so the BBC News at One can continue unchanged from Studio E (again, making UK viewers especially believe nothing is going on). This is no big deal as they obviously don’t really need the entire day free to pilot the new channel.

Because they still have two sets of staff, they have a full crew available for Studio C (the former WN crew) whilst the former NC crew cover the merged channel from Studio E. This allows for lots of flexibility.

Longer term, my speculation is that they will probably continue to have two crews on hand in some sense, as it’s likely that they will need a “channel crew” and a “BBC News at One crew”. The News at One crew is then probably available to help out with potential UK-opts on the UK-exclusive “stream” of the channel for large parts of the day, if needed. Presumably, the lack of this flexibility during the time pilots are ongoing is why we have heard that there will be no ability to opt-out from the WN feed in the UK during this next month.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Rolling News - 05-03-2023

I’m assuming, then, the remainder of the BBC One bulletins (News at One and weekends) will move into B from 3rd April whilst E is refurbished.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - interestednovice - 05-03-2023

That’s everyone’s working assumption in this thread, I think - although we don’t have an official word from the BBC or BBC insiders.

If work on refurbishing E doesn’t actually start for a while, they may continue using it even if all other output has moved out.

There is also an overnight maintenance window for C, where E has been used instead, and it remains to be seen whether that will continue. If Singapore and Washington are going to be producing a sizeable chunk of overnight output semi-independent of London, it may be possible for that window to exist as natural downtime. Even if a London gallery is needed, presumably any one of the other galleries (likely A, as there wouldn’t be a U.K.-opt overnight anyway) could be used for that.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Worzel - 05-03-2023

(05-03-2023, 01:55 AM)interestednovice Wrote:  All part of the pretence, for the average Joe viewer, that nothing has changed I suppose!

Also, this is the BBC we are talking about. They don’t like to change too many things at once!

During the transition, the “new channel” arrangements have already started but the idea is for nobody to notice this. WN viewers have now had a loosely mock-Studio E background for a while now, NC viewers have largely seen Studio E or Studio C in the same mock mode for the vast majority of the time lately, even with the increased levels of simulcasting.

From Monday, to the extremely casual viewer it will appear as though nothing has changed on the NC as they will be in the same studio with presenters largely drawn from the “pool” of NC and not-headline WN presenters who also appear on NC since they don’t have their own show. So familiar presenters in a familiar studio, with no changes to graphics or sets. A very slight level of changes editorially, but probably not immediately noticeable compared to, say, the 10am fudge hour last week.

For WN viewers, the change is potentially more noticeable as it appears that there will be no branded shows. However, the branded shows do go on hiatus over Christmas and New Year, so do not continuously appear, and it will really only be like that. They’ll already be used to the brand “BBC News”, so will hardly notice it, and again I am assuming that there will be no immediate change to graphics so the BBC World News name will still show in the lower thirds, etc. The presenters will not be the normal WN “A team”, but will largely be people known to them. The background, superficially, looks similar and if viewers had already seen the 10am fudge hour then it will be totally familiar.

This essentially hides the merger from both audiences in the short term and frees up Studio C in the daytime for continued experimentation and piloting of the “new channel’s new style”. They then have the whole day in there, except for the hour used by the live channel so the BBC News at One can continue unchanged from Studio E (again, making UK viewers especially believe nothing is going on). This is no big deal as they obviously don’t really need the entire day free to pilot the new channel.

Because they still have two sets of staff, they  have a full crew available for Studio C (the former WN crew) whilst the former NC crew cover the merged channel from Studio E. This allows for lots of flexibility.

Longer term, my speculation is that they will probably continue to have two crews on hand in some sense, as it’s likely that they will need a “channel crew” and a “BBC News at One crew”. The News at One crew is then probably available to help out with potential UK-opts on the UK-exclusive “stream” of the channel for large parts of the day, if needed. Presumably, the lack of this flexibility during the time pilots are ongoing is why we have heard that there will be no ability to opt-out from the WN feed in the UK during this next month.

'And that's The Context'.  

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - interestednovice - 05-03-2023

Haha!

I’d better watch out with my longer posts or people will start to think I’m a media analyst!

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