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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Radio_man - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 01:23 AM)Transmission Wrote:  

(27-03-2023, 04:54 PM)Radio_man Wrote:  Friday at 18:00 is likely to be the final BBC World News bulletin, but Monday at 0500 for the UK NC is listed as BBC World News, so this could hint at the full switch over to the single service happening at 9am on Monday.

Just to confirm this - the name change from BBC World News to BBC News is at 09:00 BST on Monday.

From that point, the UK feed becomes an opt of the core channel of what up to that point used to be World News. The UK opts out at the following points on weekdays with everything else following the core schedule:

06:00-09:00 Breakfast

10:30-11:00 BBC News (instead of HARDtalk)

13:00-13:30 BBC News at One
13:30-13:45 Sportsday

17:30-18:00 BBC News (instead of Focus on Africa)
18:00-18:30 BBC News at Six
18:30-19:00 Sportsday

22:00-22:30 BBC News at Ten
22:30-23:10 Newsnight

23:30-00:00 HARDtalk (except Friday: Newswatch and Talking Buisness)

03:30-04:00 Different versions of the same half-hour programmes on the core feed (not sure why - breaks edited out maybe?)

Thanks for this - presumably in a few weeks time, Monday - Friday 0900 - 1100 will be added as a UK opt-out so UK viewers can enjoy "watching" Nicky Campbell's radio phone-in (roll eyes)[size=1] [/size]

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ginnyfan - 28-03-2023

With all of these opt outs, UK viewers really won't be seeing much of the new channel and its new faces.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 11:04 AM)ginnyfan Wrote:  With all of these opt outs, UK viewers really won't be seeing much of the new channel and its new faces.

UK viewers will miss 5 continuous hours in the morning, yes, and there is a chance that one ``new'' face (chief presenter) will have a shift fully during that time and thus won't make it to UK screens.
However, after 11am the opt outs will be no longer than an hour (until 10pm), so any face that has a continous shift longer than that will make an appearance.
Evening mess of an opt out robs UK of WNA (as was usually) and part of the first edition of Newsday, but there will still be two other editions + ABR.

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thomalex - thomalex - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 11:04 AM)ginnyfan Wrote:  With all of these opt outs, UK viewers really won't be seeing much of the new channel and its new faces.

It’s almost like merging the two channels makes sense. There wasn’t actually that much dedicated News Channel output when you at the full days schedule.

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RE: thomalex - Radio_man - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 11:37 AM)thomalex Wrote:  

(28-03-2023, 11:04 AM)ginnyfan Wrote:  With all of these opt outs, UK viewers really won't be seeing much of the new channel and its new faces.

It’s almost like merging the two channels makes sense. There wasn’t actually that much dedicated News Channel output when you at the full days schedule.

Apart from, up until the joint service started, a fully separate and dedicated UK News Channel service between 9am and 6pm, 5 days a week?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Rolling News - 28-03-2023

Seems ‘The Context’ is staying:

https://twitter.com/cfraserbbc/status/1640473218220797958?s=46&t=VYWLEuZH-Ddk7J9KWwLamQ 

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ginnyfan - 28-03-2023

That's a shame. I don't care for the views of their zoomed guests. This sort of programming, like the endless newspaper reviews the UK seems to be in love with, is such cheap filler for proper news.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - oscillon - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 01:24 PM)Rolling News Wrote:  Seems ‘The Context’ is staying:

https://twitter.com/cfraserbbc/status/1640473218220797958?s=46&t=VYWLEuZH-Ddk7J9KWwLamQ 

Oi, that's sad. Panel might be good for like 15 minutes as in The Papers, one hour of panel rambling is already too much, let alone two!
Can't see how they'll use the same panel for two hours. Or they'll just extend it from two people to four?
I was hoping Christian was finally getting a proper branded news bulletin once again, or at least or more Newsnight-y thing (then Context is in its current form).

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Radio_man - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 01:36 PM)ginnyfan Wrote:  That's a shame. I don't care for the views of their zoomed guests. This sort of programming, like the endless newspaper reviews the UK seems to be in love with, is such cheap filler for proper news.

'The Context' can't be a cheap program to make, as presumably the guests they have on need to be paid appearance fees. If there's different sets of guests on for each hour, then costs will go up even more from what the costs are currently for one hour.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - DTV - 28-03-2023

(28-03-2023, 01:36 PM)ginnyfan Wrote:  That's a shame. I don't care for the views of their zoomed guests. This sort of programming, like the endless newspaper reviews the UK seems to be in love with, is such cheap filler for proper news.

Agreed, though it's not actually cheap as some people might think. Appearance fees will run into several hundred pounds per person per edition - all adds up when you're doing it nearly every day. Even if The Context are paying guests as little as £200 (I expect it'd be higher), that's nearly £100k a year for one programme.

Though, to be honest, if you can shove all the pundit interviews into a single slot, I'd prefer that over them cropping up constantly throughout the day. It's become a real crutch on both channels in the last few years - some half-hours nearly every story seems to go to at least one 3/4-minute outside interview. I'd be fine with maybe a few across the day, but there's so many and it has a real slowing effect on the pace of the programmes.

20 years ago, News 24 used to fit 15-18 stories in the front half-hour, even if just in brief. Sometimes today, even on fairly slow news days, you get half-hours where only three or four stories are covered at all. And when it's that sluggish, I just turn off. Ideally, you'd have the happy medium between the two extremes that you had about ten years ago - a decent number of stories, with analysis on the main ones (ideally from BBC correspondents and experts, rather than from pundits).

Hopefully, the 'more updates' in yesterday's article refers to a slightly pacier format. Ideally, they'd also reformat The Context to include some actual decent explainer segments (as per Outside Source) - you know, to actually give some context.

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