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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Fluffy Bunny Feet - 23-01-2023

(22-01-2023, 08:27 PM)bbctvtechop Wrote:  
(22-01-2023, 08:23 PM)Fluffy Bunny Feet Wrote:  They will only notice when the wrong job descriptions (as you have written) are used. Quite frankly, if the viewer does not know what the 'PM' is in a UK political report, there's really no point them watching. For example you would never describe King Charles III (of the United Kingdom)...

BiB - We as UK citizens wouldn't, you're right. But what if there is another King Charles somewhere else in the world - you would expect an international news channel to define and differentiate who they're referring to unless the context is strong already.

Perhaps on Radio but hard to believe with TV pictures...


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - harshy - 26-01-2023

I noticed the usual orange lights turning pink on Impact, I think it might be maintenance time for studio C.


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ALV - 30-01-2023

Can the BBC just pause the merger and keep things as it is now? I mean ever since 2023 the NC's resources is basically cut to barebones, there's not much left to reduce and further save costs significantly.

Currently the NC is running on a skeleton resource of four weekday shifts:

Morning Shift 1 (0900-1100) [2 hrs]
Morning Shift 2 (1100-1300) [2 hrs]
News at One Shift (1300-1400 & 1700-1800) [2 hrs]
Afternoon Shift (1400-1700)  [3 hrs]

...while there are currently zero weekend shifts. Plus, all the NC produced feature programmes are already cut to zero (e.g The Film Review, Dateline London).

How about the BBC further consolidate these four weekday domestic shifts into two weekday domestic shifts as follows:

Morning Shift (0900-1400, including News at One) [4 hrs]
Afternoon Shift (1400-1800) [5 hrs]

...while the evenings and weekends will continue the way it is currently, simulcasting with WN.

Surely it won't cost BBC much to maintain two domestic shifts every weekday right? I think this would not only allow BBC to maintain a barebones domestic service to UK viewers, but it would equip them the capability of covering breaking news effectively during the busiest time of the weekday with the highest probability of having UK breaking news.

Yes, domestic breaking news coverage is still gonna suck on evenings and weekends, no matter which merger proposal is adopted, BUT at least the peak breaking news hours are covered and a minimal domestic service can still be provided.

IMO it's way better than spending money maintaining a "UK breaking news standby team", which I don't think it will work effectively as intended, as our fellow respectable insider bbctvtechop suggested.


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - DTV - 30-01-2023

Something along those lines would be a sensible compromise, who knows why they aren't suggesting something like that even as an 'interim'.

Personally, I think you could probably have an even more streamlined set-up and still get away with a similar level of UK-only output.
09:00-11:00 - simulcast first half-hours with World (can be more UK-focussed as these are World's deadest hours), with UK-only back half-hours.
11:00-13:00 - BBC News from Westminster - more politics focussed hours, integrate Politics Live into back half of second hour (if you have to), better utilise Millbank team.
13:00-17:00 - From Studio B with One presenter and team - taking an edition of Sportsday at 13:30 would also allow you to move London into B and gain relative savings there.

That way you have no separate UK channel shifts or studio, while still retaining separate daytime output.


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - matthieu1221 - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 05:07 PM)ALV Wrote:  How about the BBC further consolidate these four weekday domestic shifts into two weekday domestic shifts as follows:

Morning Shift (0900-1400, including News at One) [4 hrs]
Afternoon Shift (1400-1800) [5 hrs]

Personally the News at One shift should start with the News at One.

One of the big issues at franceinfo across the Channel where their equivalent of the Ten bulletin and the entire weekend evening shift is one and the same is that they can't react to breaking news as well as competitors. There was this one occasion when they just couldn't do rolling coverage as the presenter had to prep for the 11pm main bulletin (equivalent of the Ten/One here) so between the news breaking during the evening shift and 11pm it was mostly just the usual padding.


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Independent - 02-02-2023

(31-01-2023, 09:54 PM)oscillon Wrote:  Not only Euronews has the new look, its English version has ditched the whole live presenter thing which they had on weekdays for the last several years (at one point they even had another reporter in the studio as well who tracked social media). So, basically, Euronews English went back to where it was at the start, with bulletins totally made of pre-recorded reports.
In some ways this would be better for the UK feed than showing a radio simulcast IMO. Tongue


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Omnipresent - 02-02-2023

Jake Kanter is reporting that Annita McVey, Ben Brown, Jane Hill, Martine Croxall and Shaun Ley are amongst those who have not secured roles on the merged channel:

https://deadline.com/2023/02/bbc-news-channel-cuts-presenters-1235246467/ 

Quote:In
Matthew Amroliwala
Yalda Hakim
Christian Fraser
Lucy Hockings
Maryam Moshiri

Out (confirmed so far)
Martine Croxall
Jane Hill
Ben Brown
Annita McVeigh
Geeta Guru-Murthy
Shaun Ley
Karin Giannone



RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - TheJarv - 02-02-2023

(02-02-2023, 10:45 AM)Omnipresent Wrote:  Jake Kanter is reporting that Annita McVey, Ben Brown, Jane Hill, Martine Croxall and Shaun Ley are amongst those who have not secured roles on the merged channel:

https://deadline.com/2023/02/bbc-news-channel-cuts-presenters-1235246467/ 

Quote:In
Matthew Amroliwala
Yalda Hakim
Christian Fraser
Lucy Hockings
Maryam Moshiri

Out (confirmed so far)
Martine Croxall
Jane Hill
Ben Brown
Annita McVeigh
Geeta Guru-Murthy
Shaun Ley
Karin Giannone

Wow, it really is World News for the UK isn't it


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Newsroom - 02-02-2023

Heartbreaking for people like Jane Hill who I really hope will land a role sharing the 1 with someone. Also gutted for many on that 'out' list.


RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - UTVLifer - 02-02-2023

These are massive losses for the BBC