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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - qwerty123 - 06-02-2023

(06-02-2023, 10:30 PM)LKojak Wrote:  

(06-02-2023, 09:37 PM)Moz Wrote:  Does anyone know how much of the schedule the new fab 5 of chief presenters will cover? Will it just be their existing programmes or will they be on air longer?

My impression (although I obviously don’t know!) was that the ‘fab 5’ (love that) will largely continue with their current slots, and then some (say, 4?) of the 8 ‘reporter-presenters’ will do weekends, leaving the others as cover.

I suspect some of the reporter-presenters will be a lot more studio based than others. For example you may get a business specialist who presents for a couple of hours several days a week and then goes on to provide the majority of the business coverage for the rest of the morning whereas another one of them may be a foreign correspondent who covers a couple of weekends a month in the studio when not on assignment.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - DTV - 07-02-2023

(06-02-2023, 11:53 PM)qwerty123 Wrote:  I suspect some of the reporter-presenters will be a lot more studio based than others. For example you may get a business specialist who presents for a couple of hours several days a week and then goes on to provide the majority of the business coverage for the rest of the morning whereas another one of them may be a foreign correspondent who covers a couple of weekends a month in the studio when not on assignment.

I think we'll need to wait to see who the presenter-reporters are before making these kinds of assumptions. I don't think we've heard a single word about business coverage on the new channel - while it would obviously be radical to drop business programming entirely, both channels have notably cut back on business over the years and there was something a while back (I think when Worklife launched) about the BBC viewing the market focussed WBR as a bit old fashioned, so not entirely out of the question.

Plus, if we assume that the five senior presenters are going to be in similar slots to now, I'd assume that Maryam Moshiri - a former business presenter - is going to be headed to the historically business-focussed European Breakfast slot.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ConorW2000 - 07-02-2023

I can see the new presenters doing longer hours than currently

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Radio_man - 07-02-2023

(07-02-2023, 11:49 AM)ConorW2000 Wrote:  I can see the new presenters doing longer hours than currently

Not necessarily - assuming Outside Source is still kept on at 7pm, the daytime 5am - 7pm weekday schedule can still be broken down into 4 x 3 hour and 1 x 2 hour shifts.
The main unknown is what shift Christian Fraser will do - whether he'll stay on The Context for an hour at 9pm or if he'll be moved into the weekday daytime schedule.
If he does stay on at 9pm, we could have a presenter/reporter doing a weekday daytime shift.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Moz - 07-02-2023

As Ros Atkins hasn’t got a presenter role, presumably Marian will be taking over Outside Source?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - damian - 07-02-2023

I used to be a frequent viewer off BBC world news but I think it’s fair to say the past 8 years I’ve watched very little of the channel… just spent the past couple days watching and I do have to stay there are so many structural flaws in the way all the bulletins are. It appears very messy as if everything is just hacked together.

I was going to list a few ways the bulletins could tidy themselves up but I’d be here all week. However the only real thing that bothers me most are the lengthy and tiring toth sequences.

Reduce them to 50seconds or so were the headline bed actually has timed thunderclaps with a pitch change, not just restarting the bed for the next headline.

After the final thunderclap they could say. “This is BBC News from *location* I’m xxx xxx, also in the programme…” after the titles… “it’s 5pm in *uk place name* and 10pm *where top story is happening*

I miss these days of timed toths, that never dragged out.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbPyUgnjzVs&si 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EKP0YWGq6z8&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UMqR3JVIy2s&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE 

These short n sharp toths ended when BBC World moved to N8 studio and got longer when they relaunched in NBH

Also bring back sport and business stings during the bulletin?

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - qwerty123 - 07-02-2023

(07-02-2023, 12:19 PM)Radio_man Wrote:  

(07-02-2023, 11:49 AM)ConorW2000 Wrote:  I can see the new presenters doing longer hours than currently

Not necessarily - assuming Outside Source is still kept on at 7pm, the daytime 5am - 7pm weekday schedule can still be broken down into 4 x 3 hour and 1 x 2 hour shifts.
The main unknown is what shift Christian Fraser will do - whether he'll stay on The Context for an hour at 9pm or if he'll be moved into the weekday daytime schedule.
If he does stay on at 9pm, we could have a presenter/reporter doing a weekday daytime shift.

I suspect Christian will stay on evenings but may well incorporate OS into his slot. I think the 5am shift is by far the most likely to be covered by a reporter-presenter as arguably it has essentially been a business slot with a bit of news rather than the other way around for a number of years to the extent that regular cover is provided by the business rather than news team including on occasion by people who would never appear on the main news at any other time of day (it is also notable that none of the seemingly informed articles have listed Sally amongst the departures).

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - ALV - 07-02-2023

For everyone's reference, here's the list of shifts on WN currently:

Definition

A shift means the presenter and the production team has to be on standby ready to go on air in moments notice at a specified period of time, EVEN if it's currently in recorded programming/back half programmes...

For example, the Global shift presenter (Matthew Amroliwala) has to be on standby during Focus on Africa if there is breaking news during 1730-1800.

Weekdays (where 1900-2200, 2300-0600 is simulcasted with NC)

0500-0700 [2 hrs] Early Morning Shift (Sally Bundock/Victoria Valentine)
0700-1000 [3 hrs] Morning Shift
1000-1300 [3 hrs] Live Shift (Lucy Hockings)*
1300-1600 [3 hrs] Impact Shift (Yalda Hakim)
1600-1900 [3 hrs] Global Shift (Matthew Amroliwala)
1900-2100 [2 hrs] Outside Source Shift (Ros Atkins)
2100-2200 [1 hr ] The Context Shift (Christian Fraser)
2200-2300 [1 hr ] WNA Shift (Laura Trevelyan/Jane O'Brien)
2300-0200 [3 hrs] Newsday Shift (Karishma Vaswani)
0200-0500 [3 hrs] Overnight Shift

*1000-1100 is a NC simulcast BUT the presenter will still be on standby if WN decides to air a separate bulletin, just like this morning

Weekends (where 1000-0600 is simulcasted with NC, 20 hours of simulcast!)

0600-0900 [3 hrs] Early Morning Shift
0900-1400 [4 hrs] Morning Shift
1400-1900 [5 hrs] Afternoon Shift
1900-2200 [3 hrs] Evening Shift
2200-0100 [3 hrs] Late Shift
0100-0600 [5 hrs] Overnight Shift

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Radio_man - 07-02-2023

(07-02-2023, 01:23 PM)damian Wrote:  I used to be a frequent viewer off BBC world news but I think it’s fair to say the past 8 years I’ve watched very little of the channel… just spent the past couple days watching and I do have to stay there are so many structural flaws in the way all the bulletins are. It appears very messy as if everything is just hacked together.

I was going to list a few ways the bulletins could tidy themselves up but I’d be here all week. However the only real thing that bothers me most are the lengthy and tiring toth sequences.

Reduce them to 50seconds or so were the headline bed actually has timed thunderclaps with a pitch change, not just restarting the bed for the next headline.

After the final thunderclap they could say. “This is BBC News from *location* I’m xxx xxx, also in the programme…” after the titles… “it’s 5pm in *uk place name* and 10pm *where top story is happening*

I miss these days of timed toths, that never dragged out.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbPyUgnjzVs&si 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EKP0YWGq6z8&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UMqR3JVIy2s&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE 

These short n sharp toths ended when BBC World moved to N8 studio and got longer when they relaunched in NBH

Also bring back sport and business stings during the bulletin?

This is not unique to World News, it's happened across BBC News bulletins over the last decade. The 1/6/10 headline sequences often have vox pops as well, and can take up to 2 minutes. I often get so bored of the headline sequence, if I've recorded the bulletin to watch later, I'll just skip the headline sequence altogether.

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RE: BBC News Channel/BBC World News Merger - Kojak - 07-02-2023

(07-02-2023, 01:12 PM)Moz Wrote:  As Ros Atkins hasn’t got a presenter role, presumably Marian will be taking over Outside Source?

Almost certainly not - Ros is Analysis Editor, so he will almost certainly be one of the reporter-presenters (probably the only one on a weekday shift, too).

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