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RE: BT TV Internet Mode - Technologist - 12-06-2023

Freeview and Freesat do not own infrastructure ..
they are basically platform mangers EPG collators ( which they both sub to the BBC) and marketing ..which was where Freeview started before it merged with DMOL who did Platfirm management and EPG. .. they then combined with Freesat.

As has been mentioned the DSAT satellites are owned by SES/Astra,
For DTT the transmitters are owned and operated by Arqiva.
Coding and mux is done by the BBC,BT M&B ,and Arqiva .
And the mux operators BBC D3&4 SDN and Arqiva have 25 year contracts with Arqiva for transmission.
That is what sets the likely length of DVB emission in the UK …. 2010 plus 25 years….

Plus May be an odd year as the contracts are not co terminus.
That we knew in 2007 when the tenders were issued …

Just pulling together some numbers from earlier ..
97% population coverage is more than can receive the DTT Comm muxes \
Over half the uk households are paying on average just over £1k a year for their tv .
(Although in current economics that may be fewer and less)

£10 a month is say 33p a day so £20/m for 80M is 66p for all your connectivity …
As of July 2023, customers in the UK will be paying an average standing charge fee of around 53p per day for electricity and 29p per day for gas.
https://www.uswitch.com/gas-electricity/guides/energy-standing-charges/ 

And the TV licence is 44p a day
And average Sky subscription about £2.65 a day.

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - WillPS - 12-06-2023

(12-06-2023, 09:18 AM)Keith Wrote:  This rather assumes that everyone who watches live TV is paying the TV licence fee, though it could be argued that if they're not paying for it why should they be able to access it.

That's an argument which nobody in power is going to make. It'd be like trying to consider the needs of shoplifters when designing a future shape for retail.

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - London Lite - 12-06-2023

(12-06-2023, 09:18 AM)Keith Wrote:  Long term there may be an argument for all properties to have access to a basic 5-10MB/s internet connection for free, which would probably have to be subsidised by government. (Given more government and council services are going online I'd argue there's a reasonable case for this, however that's down to politics which is probably off-topic.)

It was proposed by Labour under Jeremy Corbyn to provide a nationalised ISP with basic broadband for all.

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - Stuart - 13-06-2023

(12-06-2023, 11:09 PM)London Lite Wrote:  It was proposed by Labour under Jeremy Corbyn to provide a nationalised ISP with basic broadband for all.
98% of the UK already has broadband access. That's higher than the percentage of people with access to mains gas (85%).

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - London Lite - 15-06-2023

(13-06-2023, 06:59 AM)Stuart Wrote:  98% of the UK already has broadband access. That's higher than the percentage of people with access to mains gas (85%).

The difference with Labour's idea was to provide a basic free tier for those who either can't afford broadband or have a data cap, such as those who only use mobile data to access the internet.

Mains gas is an obvious decrease as homes have been adapted or built to run completely from electricity. (Electric boilers and cookers)

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - i.h - 16-06-2023

that was not the proposal - it was to give all of us "fastest free full fibre broadband" and it would have been paid for by taxing multinationals.

https://labour.org.uk/press/british-broadband-labour-sets-out-mission-to-connect-communities-across-britain-by-delivering-free-full-fibre-broadband-for-all/ 

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - WillPS - 27-06-2023

BT TV to be replaced by EE TV:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/06/bt-uk-preps-pay-tv-rebrand-to-ee-tv-with-free-multi-room.html 

According to that article, EE TV will use Apple hardware. Basically the end of YouView if true.

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - JAS84 - 27-06-2023

Assuming the Wikipedia article isn't in need of updates, Plusnet and TalkTalk offer YouView as well, so it wouldn't be the end of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouView 

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - i.h - 27-06-2023

Plusnet TV has been dead for some time. TalkTalk offers a TV service but their newer boxes don't seem to use YouView.

RE: BT TV Internet Mode - WillPS - 27-06-2023

(27-06-2023, 02:50 PM)JAS84 Wrote:  Assuming the Wikipedia article isn't in need of updates, Plusnet and TalkTalk offer YouView as well, so it wouldn't be the end of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouView 

Plusnet stopped offering a TV service in October 2021: https://www.plus.net/help/tv/changes-to-youview-tv/ 

TalkTalk migrated away from offering YouView based service to a new Netgem Android based setup for new customers even longer ago.

Humax used to offer a standalone solution but again haven't for a long time.

This would most certainly be the end of it as a marketed proposition.