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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - James2001 - 09-09-2022
(09-09-2022, 08:24 PM)Frances Wrote: Before Huw read the announcement on BBC One and NC, the picture was already showing the palace flag lowering to half-mast…And just before that, they had a shot from a camera in the crowd where everyone suddenly starts looking up and pointing their phones- presumably when they noticed the flag being lowered. Then they cut pretty abruptly from that to the Balmoral gates almost as if they weren't meant to be showing it.
The BBC website has a video of the "announcement"- which begins with the News Report slide from the moment they cut into BBC2, though Huw had actually already announced it on BBC News and BBC1 a good couple of minutes before that, I don't know why they didn't include that bit on their video seeing as it's the actual moment we were told.
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Andrew Wood - 09-09-2022
ITV News titles from Central and the Early Evening News:
https://twitter.com/theidentgallery/status/1568346360956567552?s=20&t=uNsbjTDC9fd1n58DIV7tGw
https://twitter.com/theidentgallery/status/1568346650816413696?s=20&t=uNsbjTDC9fd1n58DIV7tGw
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Ash101 - 09-09-2022
Do you really think the BBC would've known for anything up to 2 hours before? It seems quite unlikely in this day and age, because I think they'd be too worried about a leak to allow it to go around.
Wasn't it actually reported for the Duke that they didn't actually inform anyone and it was just posted by the royal family via Twitter?
Could similar have happened last night? The only reason that seems possible to me, is that everyone seemed to be caught off guard. Quite how, when they'd spent a few hours commentating on her health and were clearly expecting something to happen as the BBC stuck with it all afternoon / ITV started up at 5pm.
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - steve - 09-09-2022
I don’t think they were caught off guard, and I don’t think they knew in advance, but it was clear to anyone who can interpret these things where we were heading.
The exact format of how it was handled on the BBC in terms of breaking and then uniting for the formal announcement was used for HRH DofE’s death too, of course.
Ultimately, Huw and Nick on One will have known they’d be the ones scrutinised the most and viewed the most so pause and get right rather than rush and regret. And they did it beautifully.
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - UTVLifer - 09-09-2022
I do think that Huw and Nicholas Witchell had been made aware that the announcement was incoming by about 6pm ish, as for that last 30 minutes until the official announcement, it did feel like Witchell was speaking his words very carefully, almost like he had to keep stopping himself from blurting it out accidentally until it was time.
I had my eye on both BBC One and ITV at that point, and by about 6:15/6:20pm, the tone between Mary Nightingale and Chris Ship had certainly shifted as well and become even more serious. Though it's great shame that Mary's autocue seemingly wasn't ready for the announcement, even though she hit the nail in terms of everything else (just like Huw)
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Omnipresent - 09-09-2022
I guess it depends in part on the definition of embargoed.
Normally you can tell when a story has been embargoed as all outlets report it at the exactly the same time. The BBC may have been forewarned that an announcement was coming, but not given an exact time when they could report it.
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Andrew - 09-09-2022
(09-09-2022, 05:31 PM)m_in_m Wrote:(09-09-2022, 05:09 PM)Andrew Wrote: It’s always interesting how they deploy everyone on occasions like this. Kirsty Walk is reporting now from Balmoral
Earlier this morning Laura Kunessberg was a studio correspondent with Clive. They wouldn’t caption a job title as technically she’s doesn’t really have one ‘Former Political Editor’ maybe.
They had the same with Sarah Smith. North America editor wasn't applicable but equally I guess they don't like Former Scotland Editor as a title.
Did it used to be policy that someone reporting from outside their usual remit would be captioned as ‘News Correspondent’?
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - steve - 09-09-2022
(09-09-2022, 10:48 PM)Omnipresent Wrote: I guess it depends in part on the definition of embargoed.
Normally you can tell when a story has been embargoed as all outlets report it at the exactly the same time. The BBC may have been forewarned that an announcement was coming, but not given an exact time when they could report it.
And it’s doesn’t have to be a formal ‘being told’ more an implied thing.
For example, as I understand it, everyone in government stopped answering and returning calls around 5.45pm yesterday. And then gradually people come back online, the circle widens (you need to share the news - social media teams, news agency teams, flag teams, privy council) and people hear things so you get a sense even if you don’t know the details in detail (so to speak) or exact timings.
You can ‘know’ without knowing.
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Frances - 09-09-2022
(09-09-2022, 10:50 PM)Andrew Wrote:In the past two years I remember Clive and Reeta weren’t captioned but Martine and Shaun were.(09-09-2022, 05:31 PM)m_in_m Wrote:(09-09-2022, 05:09 PM)Andrew Wrote: It’s always interesting how they deploy everyone on occasions like this. Kirsty Walk is reporting now from Balmoral
Earlier this morning Laura Kunessberg was a studio correspondent with Clive. They wouldn’t caption a job title as technically she’s doesn’t really have one ‘Former Political Editor’ maybe.
They had the same with Sarah Smith. North America editor wasn't applicable but equally I guess they don't like Former Scotland Editor as a title.
Did it used to be policy that someone reporting from outside their usual remit would be captioned as ‘News Correspondent’?
RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Clean Feed - 09-09-2022
https://twitter.com/cleanfeed_ttvr/status/1568250611464024065
https://twitter.com/cleanfeed_ttvr/status/1568357974141181953