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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - eyeTV - 11-09-2022

GB News don't appear to have had any of the helicopter aerial shots. I thought they had joined the BBC / ITN / Sky broadcasting pool, but some of the coverage suggests otherwise.

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - aaron_scotland - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 03:23 PM)AJB39 Wrote:  Is this the longest car journey ever to be broadcast on British tv?

Sure feels like it 

Interesting the 4G in Fife is pretty crap compared to the countryside between Aberdeen and Dundee, picture has been awful for a bit now.

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - VMPhil - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 03:23 PM)AJB39 Wrote:  Is this the longest car journey ever to be broadcast on British tv?

How long was OJ Simpson’s?

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - James2001 - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 03:23 PM)AJB39 Wrote:  Is this the longest car journey ever to be broadcast on British tv?

Unlike the endless car chases you get in the US!

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(11-09-2022, 03:35 PM)aaron_scotland Wrote:  

(11-09-2022, 03:23 PM)AJB39 Wrote:  Is this the longest car journey ever to be broadcast on British tv?

Sure feels like it 

Interesting the 4G in Fife is pretty crap compared to the countryside between Aberdeen and Dundee, picture has been awful for a bit now.

Might not just be a weak signal, I imagine the networks could be overloaded. Still going into low quality as it comes into Edinburgh.

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Milkshake - 11-09-2022

The Person ( The one with the Deep voice) on ITV news who said it will be going via Corstorphine clearly has no clue about Edinburgh let alone which route its actually taken. The route is Queensferry road.. He keeps on saying complete rubbish who is this muppet??

Edit: Its Andrew Marr.

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Pips2022 - Pips2022 - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 01:23 PM)Jon Wrote:  

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(11-09-2022, 01:20 PM)justinh Wrote:  

(09-09-2022, 10:00 PM)ShinyBat Wrote:  

(09-09-2022, 08:37 PM)eyeTV Wrote:  Didn't they all get the news from the Royal Family twitter which went out at 18:30?

Or was it just embargoed until then? There felt to be a complete lack of preparedness on the part of some broadcasters.

There was almost certainly an embargo of some sort; we have been told that the PM knew at 16:30, and a two-hour embargo is comparable to the length held for Diana (although that may not actually be a good comparison at all, because that embargo was likely in order to wake the family given the overnight timing so that they heard before the public, and this one was almost certainly to buy time for protocol wheels to get in motion).

There is a notification-type ringing sound audible in the background of the rolling coverage around 15:00 (1:24:31 in the afternoon BBC News Special), followed about a minute later by whispering of some kind. Possible that is when the BBC are informed; this is backed up by the deleted Yalda Hakim tweet being shortly after (15:07), but not by Truss apparently learning at 16:30, because the first act of Operation London Bridge was meant to be the PM being informed?

Very confusing. As Phil says, consistent with the Truss timing is Myrie's brief spell in relief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvtrbqXF6kA 

This is the clip. I'm not sure if anyone recognises the notification sound as being normal, it takes a couple moments for someone to switch off. Around 30 seconds later, you can hear someone walking onto the set, and then - more audibly - whisper something to Nicholas Witchell, while Huw is speaking.

I can't make out the specific words but the sentence does seem to end in "fallen". Theoretically, it doesn't make sense why the news has to be orally delivered to the Royal Correspondent, but it would explain why the control room would be in the dark.

London Bridge must (or seems to) have fallen? That seems to confirm there was some certainty the Queen had passed by 3pm.

Also possible the BBC had better contact with royal sources than the government which would explain why the PM wasn’t informed until a little later.

I think it’s getting into the realms of fan fiction to suggest BBC journalists (or any journos) knew before the PM- especially 90 minutes before. It might be hard for some to believe but Yalda’s tweet was seemingly prompted by misreading a fake tweet purporting to be BBC Breaking News, rather than her getting a scoop.

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - ShinyBat - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 01:20 PM)justinh Wrote:  

(09-09-2022, 10:00 PM)ShinyBat Wrote:  

(09-09-2022, 08:37 PM)eyeTV Wrote:  Didn't they all get the news from the Royal Family twitter which went out at 18:30?

Or was it just embargoed until then? There felt to be a complete lack of preparedness on the part of some broadcasters.

There was almost certainly an embargo of some sort; we have been told that the PM knew at 16:30, and a two-hour embargo is comparable to the length held for Diana (although that may not actually be a good comparison at all, because that embargo was likely in order to wake the family given the overnight timing so that they heard before the public, and this one was almost certainly to buy time for protocol wheels to get in motion).

There is a notification-type ringing sound audible in the background of the rolling coverage around 15:00 (1:24:31 in the afternoon BBC News Special), followed about a minute later by whispering of some kind. Possible that is when the BBC are informed; this is backed up by the deleted Yalda Hakim tweet being shortly after (15:07), but not by Truss apparently learning at 16:30, because the first act of Operation London Bridge was meant to be the PM being informed?

Very confusing. As Phil says, consistent with the Truss timing is Myrie's brief spell in relief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvtrbqXF6kA 

This is the clip. I'm not sure if anyone recognises the notification sound as being normal, it takes a couple moments for someone to switch off. Around 30 seconds later, you can hear someone walking onto the set, and then - more audibly - whisper something to Nicholas Witchell, while Huw is speaking.  I can't make out the specific words but the sentence does seem to end in "fallen". Theoretically, it doesn't make sense why the news has to be orally delivered to the Royal Correspondent, but that alternatively would be intentionally leaving the control room in the dark - therefore wanting to avoid using the earpiece.

The other interesting thing about that is that the aston goes down at that precise moment, but that this is also coincident with it almost blocking part of the tweet they bought up at that moment. And indeed the relevant operator said as much:



https://twitter.com/robertrea/status/1568531577499435008 


But that doesn't seem consistent with Truss not finding out for another 90 minutes when she's meant to have heard before others and from a specific high-level ambassador. Nor indeed with the gallery in Broadcasting House not formally knowing - although they evidently also did not formally know at 4:30 or even 6:29!

Someone else said as much, but a retrospective documentary or part thereof may well be when we get more knowledge for sure. I know that Nik Gowing and Stephen Jessel featured in a radio episode covering Diana's death and spoke about how they knew in advance. Of course that worked differently because the circumstances were so different, but it's the other open-ended embargo for a royal death, just for different reasons!

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Jon - 11-09-2022

It’s also possible Liz Truss knew at that earlier time those senior enough at the BBC and presumably other broadcasters were told. But was only told in an official sense at 4:30pm.

I wonder if it could have been reporters finding out from members of the royal family directly.

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - ShinyBat - 11-09-2022

(11-09-2022, 04:29 PM)Jon Wrote:  It’s also possible Liz Truss knew at that earlier time those senior enough at the BBC and presumably other broadcasters were told. But was only told in an official sense at 4:30pm.

I wonder if it could have been reporters finding out from members of the royal family directly.

Could well have been that there were effectively two processes at this point; a formal one beginning at 4:30pm, and an informal one that effectively started around the first "medical supervision" statement four hours before that.

If the control room at NBH didn't know when the formal confirmation would arrive until it literally did, one presumes others didn't either. But if those beeps at 3pm are the RATS, surely that spills out all over NBH including to the control room?

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RE: Queen Elizabeth Dies - Josh - 11-09-2022

I have uploaded a companion video to BBI45's video, looking at how the death was covered on UK TV channels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ABQXN_XXvo 

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