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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - James2001 - 08-06-2023

I seem to remember Virgin acquiring on demand rights for Lost in that period, so there still was a way to see it.

And with The Simpsons... the show's been poor post-2000, so I wouldn't personally class missing new episodes as much of a loss.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Neil Jones - 08-06-2023

Lost was popularised in the UK by its appearance on Channel 4 (with E4's First Look as well IIRC), and then Sky came along and hoovered up the third and subsequent seasons of the show.

Which peed a lot of people off, because Sky I believe weren't the least bit interested in acquiring Lost until it became a success on Channel 4.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - nwtv2003 - 08-06-2023

It was a very damaging dispute for both parties, I’m guessing Virgin would’ve have had a lot of complaints about it in addition to their pettiness, and from memory Sky1’s ratings took a huge hit. Fair play on Virgin’s part for attempting to plug the gaps with Virgin Central, Virgin1 and Setanta Sports News, but it just wasn’t the same.

We had Virgin Media during this time, and also purposely bought a Freeview box in addition so we could watch Sky News and Sky Sports News.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - James2001 - 08-06-2023

(08-06-2023, 11:25 AM)Neil Jones Wrote:  Which peed a lot of people off, because Sky I believe weren't the least bit interested in acquiring Lost until it became a success on Channel 4.

They did that a fair bit, poaching shows once they'd become a hit on terrestrial, dating back to Star Trek TNG in 1992. I remember them throwing a hissy fit when the BBC signed a lifetime deal for Heroes, which meant they couldn't poach it.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Tola - 09-06-2023

(07-06-2023, 10:01 PM)VMPhil Wrote:  I had Telewest and as I recall they didn't update the firmware straight after the big rebrand on 8th February 2007. So not surprised that the NTL branding on the boxes was still around at that point.

The "Sky Snooze" placeholder names only lasted a very short time, as obviously Sky weren't happy with it, but  even Richard Branson was unhappy about it.

It's interesting thinking of the moves that happened as a direct result of this - such as the launch of Virgin 1 and Setanta Sports News. It was fun when they rebranded to Virgin Media and did these big bold moves after years of Telewest and NTL sort of being In the shadows a bit.

From what I've looked at online, the firmware for the Telewest/NTL boxes was updated after about 2 or 3 months (might be longer, but it was mainly around that period) as in this video for example, you can still see the Telewest branding after 2 months in to the rebrand to Virgin Media:
https://youtu.be/CVx0PHtCtdE 

Notice that the person who taped this recording (not the uploader) selected a film from Film flex without realising that it was copy protected!

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - W. Knight - 10-06-2023

Mike Prince's tour around the brand-new Central, possibly for advertisers?
https://youtu.be/2r6M4xiuXzE 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Roger Darthwell - 10-06-2023

This is from the same YouTube channel, and if I have to be really honest, I find this footage completely mind blowing! I had NO idea that you could receive actual US TV stations in Britain back in 1991! I have so many questions.....is this still possible today? And which other US TV stations could be received on the Intelsat satellite back then? And this particular example is received in the UK, but it makes me wonder if people in the rest of Europe were able to pick this up, and final question is.....why was this even possible? I thought that watching channels like this one was impossible because of copyright.....apologies for the long post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw0nq5KkYKs 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Neil Jones - 10-06-2023

(10-06-2023, 11:58 AM)Roger Darthwell Wrote:  This is from the same YouTube channel, and if I have to be really honest, I find this footage completely mind blowing! I had NO idea that you could receive actual US TV stations in Britain back in 1991! I have so many questions.....is this still possible today? And which other US TV stations could be received on the Intelsat satellite back then? And this particular example is received in the UK, but it makes me wonder if people in the rest of Europe were able to pick this up, and final question is.....why was this even possible? I thought that watching channels like this one was impossible because of copyright.....apologies for the long post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw0nq5KkYKs 

There is footage floating around of BBC TV from the late 1930s that was (so the story goes) received in New York, so it works both ways. But that would have been via analogue TV transmissions (not long after 405 line became the standard I believe for BBC TV) and some freak atmospheric conditions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kk0ytK_nqA 

With regards to Intelsat, well they're a global satellite company, they do a lot of uplinking from all over the world to... well all over the world basically. no different to how TV and news would have been live at the scene, just get a feed and uplink it somewhere and receive it from a satellite you can see.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Stooky Bill - 10-06-2023

In the days before Astra and BSB the satellite channels publicised for those with dishes were all on Intelsat and Eutelsat satellites. They're lower powered ones used mainly for communications between countries. They were used for direct to home (DTH) services but that wasnt their main function.

Some satellites, particular those that use C band have wide beams that will cover both the east coast of America and the west of Europe. A lot of the time there are multiple beams so transponders receive from say the US and transmit to Europe, or vice versa. For obvious reasons they're expensive to hire space on

That channel wouldn't have been on a transatlantic satellite beam for DTH use, it would have been there to feed it to somewhere. Obviously now we don't know where, there are a lot of reasons why a US TV station could be being fed to Europe - a European broadcaster might have been taking it for news or sport coverage, or maybe it was for the use of the US Armed Forces Network (their BFBS)

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - James2001 - 11-06-2023

There was a feed of the NBC network feed at 15W, certainly during the 00s and 10s... not sure if it's still there as my motorised dish needs repairing. Last time I looked it was only putting out the music & effects track of programmes for some reason.

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