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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Steve in Pudsey - 15-07-2023

That kind of switch from VT to the originating company's dirty pres output was routinely done for promoting books and records which accompany the series so it's not beyond the realms of possibility but unlikely as you say.

Tony Currie mentioned at the blue place that Scottish had a copy of each station's generic endcap, I assume that was common practice. So each company would have been able to do their own version of that filler sequence - I imagine they would have been expecting it to fall off air after the issue with the first half.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Steve in Pudsey - 15-07-2023

That was subtly different as Elsmore's introduction to the PPB was networked too.

But think of Peter Lewis explaining the absence of the Torville and Dean skating due to issues at three venue and introducing a filler documentary.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Steve in Pudsey - 15-07-2023

The difference was that rather than feeding the VT machine to the network, they were feeding Thames presentation output to network, so Philip Elsmore could do the introduction live.

When there was a problem, Thames pres went into breakdown mode, but were still being fed to the network. Yorkshire dropped out of this quite quickly and did their own thing.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - channel4squares1 - 15-07-2023

(09-07-2023, 09:30 AM)nwtv2003 Wrote:  An odd one here from LWT and the show Nobody’s Perfect, essentially an outtake from the programme has been unintentionally transmitted causing the programme to end abruptly. Well handled by Peter Lewis at LWT.
It’ll be alright on the night, not quite…

https://youtu.be/Cew9PctmPGw 

He has since uploaded the entire episode. The first thing to note is the sudden cut after the opening titles (cutting the remaining few seconds of the theme altogether), you work out the rest.

https://youtu.be/70YXys7reww 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Steve in Pudsey - 15-07-2023

(15-07-2023, 06:54 PM)Former Member 443 Wrote:  Either way there are holes in what you're saying.

I think the biggest hole is your apparent insistance that "rules" were utterly inflexible.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - James2001 - 15-07-2023

(15-07-2023, 06:57 PM)channel4squares1 Wrote:  He has since uploaded the entire episode. The first thing to note is the sudden cut after the opening titles (cutting the remaining few seconds of the theme altogether), you work out the rest.

https://youtu.be/70YXys7reww 

The length of that video shows the media claims from the time that the episode ended "4 minutes early" can't be true- we're over 28 minutes in (including the internal ad break) at the point of the "outake", so there clearly couldn't have been long to go even if the "proper" version had gone out- possibly that's the point the credits were meant to kick in.

Would be interesting to see the completed episode to compare, Network released the show on DVD so presumably it's on there (if you can get a copy now they've gone bust).

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Stooky Bill - 16-07-2023

(15-07-2023, 09:43 PM)James2001 Wrote:  The length of that video shows the media claims from the time that the episode ended "4 minutes early" can't be true- we're over 28 minutes in (including the internal ad break) at the point of the "outake", so there clearly couldn't have been long to go even if the "proper" version had gone out- possibly that's the point the credits were meant to kick in.

That' s assuming it was scheduled for half hour slot and not a 35 minute one. The ad break was quite late into the programme

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - James2001 - 16-07-2023

This page suggests it was only 30 minutes:

https://tvrdb.com/listings/1982-08-01 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Neil Jones - 16-07-2023

(15-07-2023, 09:43 PM)James2001 Wrote:  The length of that video shows the media claims from the time that the episode ended "4 minutes early" can't be true- we're over 28 minutes in (including the internal ad break) at the point of the "outake", so there clearly couldn't have been long to go even if the "proper" version had gone out- possibly that's the point the credits were meant to kick in.

I think it should be obvious that TV shows record more than they need and that any excess would be trimmed out. It would have had to have meet a certain length at the editing stage when it was ready to go.

If we're at 28 minutes of content for a 30min scheduled should slot, then it just confirms that that broadcast was the wrong version of that episode and there should be a shorter edit. IIRC most commercial TV in this country in the early 80s was something like 26 minutes of content for a 30min slot so there must have been a broadcast version to meet that, as its all supposed to slot together and run beautifully within the rules (bearing in mind the limits on adverts and timings and what not) and look like you know what you're doing.

And of course ad breaks being late into programmes, well that became more of a thing as the 80s progressed and into the 90s (I think the all time record I ever saw was something like 23 minutes for a "Part One"), and I dare say there are other examples of breaks not being in the core 12-18min segment of the clock hour for a 30min programme.

So as Network did release it, that would suggest they've either found/been given what was meant to go out, or they "fixed" it to match the rest, although it sounds incredible that one episode was never finished in the first place out of however many episodes this series had (was it two?). If it had been strike action or a serious accident and that's why it was never finished, that's more understandable, but I don't think that applies here.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Tola - 18-07-2023

I've mentioned on this thread before about the former Sky interactive service "Open Games" which ran on Sky Digital in it's early years (via Open and later as it's own dedicated section).

I managed to find a few more rare stuff from it around the past month:
https://youtu.be/E4i6Z1KJ5js 
https://youtu.be/WlqPfOAI15s 

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