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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Bluecortina - 19-12-2023

(19-12-2023, 02:33 PM)Spencer Wrote:  We definitely used BASYS when I was at BBC Leeds in the mid 90s. I’m pretty sure it was in use across BBC News. We switched to ENPS in around 1997.

Thank you Spencer - always happy to be put right.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Steve in Pudsey - 19-12-2023

(19-12-2023, 01:18 PM)Bluecortina Wrote:  I wonder if the BBC use ENPS these days, perhaps they have moved over to something else from a third party supplier like Avid or some such?

They replaced it with OpenMedia, which failed spectacularly a few years ago causing Fiona Bruce to be taken to Millbank with a police escort for the Six

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/bbc-news-production-system-maintenance/ 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/oct/10/bbc-news-forced-to-play-old-content-on-live-channel-for-an-hour 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Stooky Bill - 19-12-2023

Yes ENPS was the replacement for BASYS, it was quite a common system, I even remember the journalism students at my uni having it

ENPS was developed by the BBC and then sold to AP who still sell it now. https://workflow.ap.org/ap-enps/ 

The BBC moved over to OpenMedia a few years ago:
https://www.cgi.com/en/solutions/openmedia 

As for the others, ITN used/uses ENPS too, Sky used iNews for years, I don't know what they use now https://www.avid.com/learn-and-support/inews 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - BrandonHTVYT - 19-12-2023

I bet you weren't expecting to see this...

The 1982 Channel 4 ident, on 35mm film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k4PA0h_FWw 

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - VMPhil - 19-12-2023

Wow, but what's even more fascinating on that channel is this - presumably early tests of the concepts for the idents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itJvatSLurU 

And these blog posts which I haven't read yet but look fascinating

http://tonypritchett.co.uk/2023/04/19/043-channel-four-logo-part-two/  (Part 1 despite what the URL says)
http://tonypritchett.co.uk/2023/04/19/039-channel-four-logo/  (part 2)

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - JAS84 - 19-12-2023

Hmm, did the person who recorded that have a faulty speaker, I can hear hissing and a very faint Fourscore?

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - Stuart - 19-12-2023

(19-12-2023, 04:19 PM)VMPhil Wrote:  Wow, but what's even more fascinating on that channel is this - presumably early tests of the concepts for the idents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itJvatSLurU 

They were the original idents, not concepts. They were used from 1982 for quite a few years.

They've just just been squashed and squeezed in low quality.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - VMPhil - 19-12-2023

(19-12-2023, 04:25 PM)Stuart Wrote:  They were the original idents, not concepts. They were used from 1982 for quite a few years.

They've just just been squashed and squeezed in low quality.

No sorry, they are not the idents that were broadcast. They are quite a bit different to the versions that ended up on screen.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - TesTVWhirl - 19-12-2023

It goes into a lot more detail what they are in the articles linked to above (I know a lot of people like the quick hit of a video, but it's definitely worth reading the posts linked to above - repeated again for those who didn't see).

http://tonypritchett.co.uk/2023/04/19/043-channel-four-logo-part-two/ 

http://tonypritchett.co.uk/2023/04/19/039-channel-four-logo/ 

They are the original idents apparently and were all wireframed on computer. But were initially going to be hand coloured due to limits of what was available for rendering in the UK. However everyone agreed they just didn't look right, so were all shipped over to America and rendered properly in time for launch. So these animated ones never made it to air in this form. However many of the static graphics in the early years often used similar style elements which weren't fully rendered but were coloured in much more simply.

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RE: TV Social Media Pres Gold - lookoutwales - 19-12-2023

(19-12-2023, 04:30 PM)VMPhil Wrote:  No sorry, they are not the idents that were broadcast. They are quite a bit different to the versions that ended up on screen.

Indeed - there's a slight but notable difference in the form-ups, along with the distinct lack of lighting and polish that Bo Gehring achieved with their final rendering.

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