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RE: Challenge TV - Neil Jones - 20-04-2024

(20-04-2024, 04:14 PM)SuperSajuuk Wrote:  The alternative could be to just put up a caption before the episode airs with something like "This episode references individuals who were famous at the time but have since been found guilty in court, or have passed away. These references remain to represent the culture at the time of original broadcast": iirc, I think WB did something like that with their really old cartoons that contained discriminatory language [but which was considered acceptable at the time the cartoon was made], but I don't see Challenge having the budget for such things, nor the audience / market that would really care about a passing reference in a quiz show question to a disgraced individual.

One of the That's channels regularly does this, but then go and stick it on everything, which sort of dilutes the issue they're drawing attention to.

The WB cartoon disclaimers were for racism and stereotypes in American culture of the 1940s and 1950s that made its way into the cartoons of the time. And even then on occasion they were edited regardless of that.

But yes, quiz TVs just say yes the answer is Rolf Harris, and move on. So its probably a case of overkill to chop it back even further (Virgin Media edits not withstanding).

Quote:Worth pointing out that, in the Crystal Maze S1-S4 re-airing recently, a couple of incidents of contestants audibly swearing are left in as is, only because its the most minor of swears (the word being the slang for excrement, you can use your own mind to work it out) and doesn't really offend anyone.

Though its ironic really because there's a collection of outtakes from Crystal Maze and in one of them somebody swears, causing the producer to ask somebody to have a word with a contestant about swearing - this was in the Tudor-Pole era IIRC.

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RE: Challenge TV - James2001 - 22-04-2024

Only just noticed that Challenge are showing series 2 of Blockbusters, don't think this has been shown before since 1984/85? All I'm aware of Challenge ever showing is series 1, the last 2 ITV series and the Sky One series.

Edit: just noticed it was mentioned further up page, I've clearly missed it until now!

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RE: Challenge TV - iloveTV1 - 22-04-2024

(20-04-2024, 04:14 PM)SuperSajuuk Wrote:  The alternative could be to just put up a caption before the episode airs with something like "This episode references individuals who were famous at the time but have since been found guilty in court, or have passed away. These references remain to represent the culture at the time of original broadcast":

Mind you, having to put it before every show that involved someone who had since passed away would probably mean that every other show would have a caption before it, given a lot of the stuff they show was made 30 years ago or longer.

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RE: Challenge TV - bilky asko - 22-04-2024

(20-04-2024, 04:14 PM)SuperSajuuk Wrote:  The alternative could be to just put up a caption before the episode airs with something like "This episode references individuals who were famous at the time but have since been found guilty in court, or have passed away. These references remain to represent the culture at the time of original broadcast"

This is the UK, we don't need huge walls of disclaimer text like they do in the US. "This programme may feature the dead, perverts, and/or dead perverts" would suffice if such a thing were deemed necessary.

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RE: Challenge TV - Neil Jones - 03-05-2024

Not sure if its me but every time Challenge shows 1995 Bullseye it always seems a bit curtailed. Apparently they made 13 episode of that final series which went out on Saturdays originally, but I don't think I've ever seen them air 13 episodes of it before looping back to some arbitrary point?

Unless of course those episodes have people in them who can't be seen these days but I very much doubt that, as by 1995 the only "celebrity" was the darts players themselves. Anybody else appearing on the show as a celebrity had stopped after 1992.

Was it ever stated why they moved Bullseye to Saturdays in 1995? It was pretty much cult TV viewing on a Sunday night at its peak. Presumably ITV wanted to get rid of it and the easiest way to kill a show is to dump it in a graveyard slot.

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RE: Challenge TV - Steve in Pudsey - 03-05-2024

There must be episodes where the Faces category is somebody who is now notorious? I can't see how you could edit around that neatly

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RE: Challenge TV - Gary McEwan - 03-05-2024

I do wonder if the move to Saturday night was to do with the various changes that were mooted by Carlton and ITV for the 15th series in 1996, to then see how it did in a primetime Saturday night slot.

I do wonder though what they were thinking of changing as I’ve never really seen anything documented or posted anywhere about it.

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RE: Challenge TV - Brekkie - 03-05-2024

I suspect it was moved in the hope it failed and they'd then have reason to axe a show execs no longer wanted but was popular with the public.

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RE: Challenge TV - Neil Jones - 03-05-2024

(03-05-2024, 08:48 PM)Gary McEwan Wrote:  I do wonder if the move to Saturday night was to do with the various changes that were mooted by Carlton and ITV for the 15th series in 1996, to then see how it did in a primetime Saturday night slot.

I do wonder though what they were thinking of changing as I’ve never really seen anything documented or posted anywhere about it.

Far as I know Andrew Wood has never discussed them. "A sixteenth series was declined as the conditions demanded by the network were unacceptable and would not have been in the interests of either Bullseye or its fans."

For all we know there may not have been any changes demanded, or maybe they wanted to chop the budget and pay the talent less, or take the physical stuff out in favour of screens and what not... we'll probably never know. Though if that was the case it would be ironic considering the 2006 revival was pretty much a carbon copy of the original (later) set anyway!

Of course lots of changes at ITV in this period and many other shows did change or end. Krypton Factor is the obvious example here.

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RE: Challenge TV - lookoutwales - 04-05-2024

(03-05-2024, 06:05 PM)Neil Jones Wrote:  Was it ever stated why they moved Bullseye to Saturdays in 1995? It was pretty much cult TV viewing on a Sunday night at its peak. Presumably ITV wanted to get rid of it and the easiest way to kill a show is to dump it in a graveyard slot.

I think the move to Saturdays came with the penultimate series rather than the last?

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