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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Jimbo2022 - 17-12-2022

Thanks for that. It's going to be an interesting next few months - particularly in January.

I would have thought Sky is only hosting BBC for a short time but it will be interesting to see what happens.

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Stooky Bill - 17-12-2022

(17-12-2022, 12:22 PM)Jimbo2022 Wrote:  Thanks for that. It's going to be an interesting next few months - particularly in January.

I would have thought Sky is only hosting BBC for a short time but it will be interesting to see what happens.

I wouldn't be so sure of it, that BBC2 Northern Ireland has been there for a long while. I suspect there'll be some BBC overspill there for a while, at least until something else is closed.

That looks like a bit of an odds and sods transponder from Sky, its got a couple of BBC services, a couple of Channel 4 and a couple of ITVs

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Jimbo2022 - 17-12-2022

Yes and BBC2 NI was in 12.226H at one point too. We still do not know how this is going to map out.

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - ASnep - 17-12-2022

The extra capacity is probably needed as long as the reduced SD lagacy service is running. The BBC currently only run 5 HD streams per TP, but they need space for 16 Streams (12x BBC One, BBC Two NI, Alba, Parliament, RB1).

The question is how many of the DVB-S transponders will remain for the legacy SD service and waht will happen to the radio services?

With one DVB-S TP they could run a UK wide minimal service of 7 channels (1, 2, 3/CBBC, 4/CBeebies, News and Alba or Scotland) and there would only be the need for one channel to be uplinked by Sky. If they decide to move the radio streams to DVB-S2 as well Sky would need to uplink two or maybe three channels, depending on what codec the radio streams will use (Do Freesat/Sky boxes support AAC audio?)

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - guineye - 18-12-2022

(17-12-2022, 09:12 PM)ASnep Wrote:  The extra capacity is probably needed as long as the reduced SD lagacy service is running. The BBC currently only run 5 HD streams per TP, but they need space for 16 Streams (12x BBC One, BBC Two NI, Alba, Parliament, RB1).

The question is how many of the DVB-S transponders will remain for the legacy SD service and waht will happen to the radio services?

With one DVB-S TP they could run a UK wide minimal service of 7 channels (1, 2, 3/CBBC, 4/CBeebies, News and Alba or Scotland) and there would only be the need for one channel to be uplinked by Sky. If they decide to move the radio streams to DVB-S2 as well Sky would need to uplink two or maybe three channels, depending on what codec the radio streams will use (Do Freesat/Sky boxes support AAC audio?)

They have advised that SD boxes will lose access to the radio services when the SD channels close, so they must be moving to DVB-S2

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Stooky Bill - 19-12-2022

(18-12-2022, 11:13 PM)guineye Wrote:  They have advised that SD boxes will lose access to the radio services when the SD channels close, so they must be moving to DVB-S2

When the SD services close, which is sometime in 2024

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Jimbo2022 - 19-12-2022

And once in S2 you may get them in AC3 rather than MPEG2 but not sure yet if that will happen but I sincerely hope so.

AC3 us usually 384kbps in best quality. The MPEG2 ones are 128 160 or 192 kbps. Mono channels run at 64 kbps

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Stuart - 22-12-2022

BBC One South HD still seem to be testing on DSat, so I guess that confirms they will be the first English region to make the transition next month.

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Jimbo2022 - 22-12-2022

It will stay there now. The switch will likely be first but exactly what order is currently unclear.

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Stooky Bill - 22-12-2022

(22-12-2022, 07:45 AM)Stuart Wrote:  BBC One South HD still seem to be testing on DSat, so I guess that confirms they will be the first English region to make the transition next month.

It's there for good, and nothing will change over Christmas - everyone locks everything down.

Whether it will be the first region to go live on the EPGs is a different matter. I suspect it'll appear with some of the other regions once they are on air. I don't think they'd want to make the necessary changes just for one region.

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