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RE: GB News - JMT1985 - 03-04-2023
It is becoming clear to me now that "news" on GB News is simply the short 5 minute hourly news summaries they provide. Everything else gets a pass by Ofcom, which is a disgrace in my opinion.
RE: GB News - Stockland Hillman - 03-04-2023
(03-04-2023, 04:20 PM)JMT1985 Wrote: It is becoming clear to me now that "news" on GB News is simply the short 5 minute hourly news summaries they provide. Everything else gets a pass by Ofcom, which is a disgrace in my opinion.Why is it a disgrace?
GB News runs news bulletins in the usual regulated manner, and has topical shows that talk about news, the same as other licences in its legal class.
The law and Broadcasting Code has been more of less the same since Ofcoms inception. It has the same licence class as Sky News, they just choose to run more regulated News content, but have run non regulated news shows such as the Pledge and the Climate Show - was that a disgrace too?
Confused as to the issue
RE: GB News - London Lite - 03-04-2023
For those of us who see news broadcasting as impartial output, it's always going to be hard to have two "news" channels which provide such polarising output. Even I've found some of it goes across the line, but it's the Ofcom definition that matters to GBN and if they can get two Tory MPs on a "discussion" programme agreeing with each other about culture wars, that's the way it's going to be.
Even as a pres geek, both channels are easy to avoid, echo chamber tv is the new Quiz TV trend we saw in the noughties.
RE: GB News - Scrotnig - 03-04-2023
I don’t like their repeated use of two Conservative MPs interviewing a senior Conservative government minister, but it doesn’t break any rules. I like the channel but I wish they wouldn’t do stuff like that. It insults the intelligence somewhat.
RE: GB News - thomalex - 03-04-2023
Basically it shouldn’t be called GB News or state that it is a news channel.
GBN fine, GB News no.
Simple
RE: GB News - JMT1985 - 03-04-2023
The irony is that their competitor Talk TV has the better name, as it does not say it is doing news, nor does it say they are "Britain's News Channel".
RE: GB News - Adsales - 04-04-2023
(03-04-2023, 07:20 PM)Stockland Hillman Wrote:(03-04-2023, 04:20 PM)JMT1985 Wrote: It is becoming clear to me now that "news" on GB News is simply the short 5 minute hourly news summaries they provide. Everything else gets a pass by Ofcom, which is a disgrace in my opinion.Why is it a disgrace?
GB News runs news bulletins in the usual regulated manner, and has topical shows that talk about news, the same as other licences in its legal class.
The law and Broadcasting Code has been more of less the same since Ofcoms inception. It has the same licence class as Sky News, they just choose to run more regulated News content, but have run non regulated news shows such as the Pledge and the Climate Show - was that a disgrace too?
Confused as to the issue
Are you really comparing the Pledge with 5 panelists, who clearly state their views and opinions from the outset, and where panelists with differing views are selected on purpose so they can challenge each other and therefore create a "natural" balance, with two Tory MPs interviewing the Tory chancellor entirely avoiding any uncomfortable questions?
Add to that the fact that Ofcom's accepted definition of a current affairs programme is:
[align=center]"A programme which contains explanation and analysis of current events and ideas, including material dealing with political or industrial controversy or with public policy."
[align=left]I don't know if you've actually watched the show in question but neither did it explain nor did it analyse the budget. It was, for all intents and purposes, a party political broadcast presenting the budget proposals as the best thing since sliced bread. Nothing was challenged apart from issues which upset some Tory backbenchers and even those questions ended with Hunt giving responses to placate the backbenchers and to portray a party and government in harmony and unity.
Had he been interviewed by Peston or Kuenssberg then questions based on opposition criticism, opposition proposals; and uncomfortable questions about freezing the income tax thresholds would have been asked, among other things.
So as it stands, we were subjected to a party political broadcast on a channel which has NEWS as part of its name all the while the Treasury was promoting the interview all over social media.
The Sky News Climate show (not sure why you would even bring that up), has always allowed climate change deniers' views, as ridiculous as they are.
Ask yourself this - would E&P do an interview in the same format with Starmer or Yousaf without challenging them and simply letting them portray they views, plans and proposals? Or for that matter, would GB News allow it? I'd say it's pretty clear that the answer is no to both.
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RE: GB News - Skygeek - 04-04-2023
Let's face it... there's a small part of each of us - that we might not like to admit we have - that enjoys hearing our own views refracted back at us, but recoils the moment it happens for people with whom we disagree. And we're quite happy to let the intellectual inconsistency lie because hearing our own views refracted back at us makes us feel good.
Naming no names.
RE: GB News - Stockland Hillman - 04-04-2023
(04-04-2023, 09:12 AM)Adsales Wrote:You're looking at it through a lens of how you'd have desired an interview to be done rather than the actual Code obligations for an entertainment show (non regulated news content) Omission of subject matter isn't a 'due impartiality' issue; neither is specific challenge to individual points It's a broader overall situation that's context dependant.(03-04-2023, 07:20 PM)Stockland Hillman Wrote: Why is it a disgrace?
GB News runs news bulletins in the usual regulated manner, and has topical shows that talk about news, the same as other licences in its legal class.
The law and Broadcasting Code has been more of less the same since Ofcoms inception. It has the same licence class as Sky News, they just choose to run more regulated News content, but have run non regulated news shows such as the Pledge and the Climate Show - was that a disgrace too?
Confused as to the issue
Are you really comparing the Pledge with 5 panelists, who clearly state their views and opinions from the outset, and where panelists with differing views are selected on purpose so they can challenge each other and therefore create a "natural" balance, with two Tory MPs interviewing the Tory chancellor entirely avoiding any uncomfortable questions?
Add to that the fact that Ofcom's accepted definition of a current affairs programme is:
[align=center]"A programme which contains explanation and analysis of current events and ideas, including material dealing with political or industrial controversy or with public policy."
[align=left]I don't know if you've actually watched the show in question but neither did it explain nor did it analyse the budget. It was, for all intents and purposes, a party political broadcast presenting the budget proposals as the best thing since sliced bread. Nothing was challenged apart from issues which upset some Tory backbenchers and even those questions ended with Hunt giving responses to placate the backbenchers and to portray a party and government in harmony and unity.
Had he been interviewed by Peston or Kuenssberg then questions based on opposition criticism, opposition proposals; and uncomfortable questions about freezing the income tax thresholds would have been asked, among other things.
So as it stands, we were subjected to a party political broadcast on a channel which has NEWS as part of its name all the while the Treasury was promoting the interview all over social media.
The Sky News Climate show (not sure why you would even bring that up), has always allowed climate change deniers' views, as ridiculous as they are.
Ask yourself this - would E&P do an interview in the same format with Starmer or Yousaf without challenging them and simply letting them portray they views, plans and proposals? Or for that matter, would GB News allow it? I'd say it's pretty clear that the answer is no to both.
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Reading the transcripts of the full interview, it's strikes me that Hunt was challenged, but from a right wing Tory perspective on taxation rather than a more balanced range of challenging questions. However the angle of questioning isn't an Ofcom issue.
I personally think having two Tory MPs host a show of that format is difficult to keep compliant with the applicable code [for general entertainment programming] certainty would fail if it was News content, and there's muddier waters here in that the MPs claimed in HoC payments declaration that their show is News. It's also a poor show that's expensive and underperform the channel, however that's not the issue.
GB News may be at risk of a rule breach with that edition of the show, and that's what our independent regulatory body is their for; its a quasi judicial process that's evidence led.
The Pledge and Climate Show are raised simply to show that they aren't content to which Ofcom would apply regulated News classifications; and there is no such thing as a 'news channel' licence in the UK. You list reasons why the Pledge was different, but from a regulatory perspective it existed as an entertainment show.
Ofcoms governing laws and codes are pretty much the same since its early 00s inception; I'm pointing out to the poster these facts and asking why its a disgrace, when the regulation is constant.
Oh and the fact that Sky's Climate show has some opposing views doesn't make it news, it simply has to obay the DUE impartiality rules in same way any other broadcast content does.
RE: GB News - scottishtv - 04-04-2023
(03-04-2023, 08:05 PM)London Lite Wrote: echo chamber tv is the new Quiz TV trend we saw in the noughties.I'd love to see what a hybrid channel would look like!
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