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RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - Kojak - 06-03-2023
(06-03-2023, 06:30 PM)Alessi Wrote: Vastly over complicated scoring system. Lots of people on Twitter saying things like 'It's basic maths', but if it's not REALLY simple scoring then people can't be bothered to play along at home and tot up their scores - which was a big part of Popmaster.To add to that, I expect a lot of listeners will be driving - so even less reason to overcomplicate the quiz like they have. Still, I’m sure it’ll all come together in time.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - Spencer - 06-03-2023
To be fair, I never really understood why the questions on Popmaster were worth three points each, or six for bonuses. It would have been simpler for them to be worth one or two respectively.
And as an occasional, casual listener, the scoring for Champions League Popmaster always struck me as somewhat Numberwang-esque.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - Alessi - 06-03-2023
(06-03-2023, 07:58 PM)Spencer Wrote: To be fair, I never really understood why the questions on Popmaster were worth three points each, or six for bonuses. It would have been simpler for them to be worth one or two respectively.
And as an occasional, casual listener, the scoring for Champions League Popmaster always struck me as somewhat Numberwang-esque.
Maybe just so scores sounded better than they were. Even if you just got one question correct, 3 sounds better than 1.
A bit like when a hotel starts its first floor of rooms at 100 - it sounds grander.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - dvboy - 06-03-2023
(06-03-2023, 08:25 PM)Alessi Wrote:(06-03-2023, 07:58 PM)Spencer Wrote: To be fair, I never really understood why the questions on Popmaster were worth three points each, or six for bonuses. It would have been simpler for them to be worth one or two respectively.
And as an occasional, casual listener, the scoring for Champions League Popmaster always struck me as somewhat Numberwang-esque.
Maybe just so scores sounded better than they were. Even if you just got one question correct, 3 sounds better than 1.
A bit like when a hotel starts its first floor of rooms at 100 - it sounds grander.
Ken did on occasion give 1 or 2 points for a partial answer.
The hotel thing makes sense, it makes finding the room easier.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - Brekkie - 06-03-2023
(06-03-2023, 03:02 PM)South Wrote:They've kind of got eight weeks to iron out the issues and can then tweak it when Vernon begins - or if it's a complete disaster replace it with something new.(06-03-2023, 01:07 PM)Brekkie Wrote: So Popmaster has been replaced by Ten to the Top, a completely different and original format in which two players answer 10 questions each for points.The scoring was the main issue with the quiz, I noted Gary himself said they were trying to create a spreadsheet to help keep track of them, so I can imagine it may evolve over the next few weeks.
A bit overly complicated which may hurt the playalong factor - basically each question is worth 1 point more than the last, but if you get one wrong the next question is then back to 1 point (though you don't lose points already scored). Also a Joker to be played per contestant which doubles the value of one question of their choice, before hearing the question.
Other than that the features of Ken Bruce's show such as the Love Song, Record of the Week and Album of the Week were all present today, as was Tracks of My Years. New Piano Room sessions were also announced today.
Most quiz formats seem overly complicated upon there first watch - familarity sorts out many issues.
(06-03-2023, 07:07 PM)chris Wrote: I feel for those who devised it.Feels like something designed by lawyers rather than creatives - clearly the brief was for something as close to Popmaster as possible without infringing on the format. It's a shame they didn't take more of a risk but understandable why they didn't - plus of course they're working within the confines of Radio 2.
I can’t imagine they’ve had an awful lot of time, brought forward when Ken’s gardening leave was announced.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - steve - 06-03-2023
If it doesn’t work, you just replace the quiz when Vernon starts. If it does, you keep it.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - James2001 - 06-03-2023
Look at many long running game shows and how many of them stay the same as their original incarnation for long. These things are nearly always tweaked to iron out kinks and improve things, I can't see how this will be any different.
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - Omnipresent - 06-03-2023
Why not do a radio version of The Hit List? Or bring back Bits and Pieces?
RE: Ken Bruce to leave BBC Radio 2 show after 31 years - Alessi - 07-03-2023
(06-03-2023, 10:07 PM)James2001 Wrote: Look at many long running game shows and how many of them stay the same as their original incarnation for long. These things are nearly always tweaked to iron out kinks and improve things, I can't see how this will be any different.
Which long running ones changed?
chris - chris - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 09:27 AM)Alessi Wrote:(06-03-2023, 10:07 PM)James2001 Wrote: Look at many long running game shows and how many of them stay the same as their original incarnation for long. These things are nearly always tweaked to iron out kinks and improve things, I can't see how this will be any different.
Which long running ones changed?
Millionaire, Deal or No Deal, Pointless, Radio 2’s Couch Potatoes - invariably they get tweaked over the years.
The Weakest Link and The Chase are the same format as launch, I think?