Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Printable Version

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Josh - 10-03-2023

Rosie Jones will not be presenting MOTD tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/josierones/status/1634277288337461271 

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Kim Wexler’s Ponytail - 10-03-2023

(10-03-2023, 08:38 PM)DavidWhitfield Wrote:  https://twitter.com/MicahRichards/status/1634272949099167745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1634272949099167745%7Ctwgr%5E876d84751731c7a9dcc2670cf25038ed2efdbdd3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpres.cafe%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D381pid%3D19852pid19852 

So... was never meant to be part of it. Tweets to confirm that... he still won't be part of it. Seems like an utterly meaningless banwagon-jumping tweet.

On this basis, I'd just like to take this opportunity to confirm that I too, was not originally planned to be part of the presenting team of Match Of The Day tomorrow, and I am steadfast that I will continue to have no involvement in its production.

Clearly not ‘’meaningless’’. The show has effectively become a picket line and he’s publicly declaring he’s joined it.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Brekkie - 10-03-2023

(10-03-2023, 08:46 PM)Nobby Wrote:  At the time of writing Gary Lineker is shown as presenting Match of the Day tomorrow (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001k2vv ) and Mark Chapman is shown as presenting next week (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001k9ys ).

How long before a backlash against Mark Chapman for taking the thirty pieces of silver even though he was probably always down to present next week?

Live FA Cup matches next week on Saturday and Sunday so Gary would be down to do at least one of those - certainly Man City v Burnley on Saturday.   Brighton v Grimsby on Sunday might have been assigned to Mark or Gabby - and with them already assigned next week on the Saturday to rugby and the Premier League highlights if this rumbles on and those who've ruled themselves out this weekend do so next weekend too the problem will only get worse.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Josh - 10-03-2023

Jermaine Jenas not down to present but will not be presenting tomorrrow:
https://twitter.com/jjenas8/status/1634281594813927438 

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - eyeTV - 10-03-2023

It would need to be sorted out long before next weekend. I can't imagine the FA or Premier League being too impressed that their product is surrounded by all this controversy.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Adsales - 10-03-2023

(10-03-2023, 08:52 PM)qwerty123 Wrote:  

(10-03-2023, 08:47 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  It wasn't a major story when they gave it undue prominence on Wednesday.   Now it is a massive story - it shows that the BBC has lost it's independence and has bended to government pressure to take action against an employee who has been critical of government rhetoric.

This feels like a turning point - not for sports broadcasting but for the BBC and potentially the government too having overstretchd their reach.

No it shows the need to act quicker when making these decisions. Suspending Gary is almost certainly the correct decision over those comments which go much further than reasonable criticism of the policy in question but by delaying the decision it has given those who dislike the government the opportunity to undermine it at the expense of the BBC’s reputation.

It inevitably cannot be the correct decision if the standards are not applied across the board which they haven’t in recent years.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - XIII - 10-03-2023

The BBC aren't going to cancel MOTD, people are just being hyperbolic and trying to be political when no political discussion is allowed.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - qwerty123 - 10-03-2023

(10-03-2023, 09:01 PM)Adsales Wrote:  

(10-03-2023, 08:52 PM)qwerty123 Wrote:  No it shows the need to act quicker when making these decisions. Suspending Gary is almost certainly the correct decision over those comments which go much further than reasonable criticism of the policy in question but by delaying the decision it has given those who dislike the government the opportunity to undermine it at the expense of the BBC’s reputation.

It inevitably cannot be the correct decision if the standards are not applied across the board which they haven’t in recent years.

The issue isn’t that Gary has tweeted criticism of a government policy, which he and others have done in the past without repercussion. The issue is that he thought it acceptable to compare the policy of a mainstream political party (a policy which a not unsubstantial proportion of the country support) to the behaviour of the nazis.
Unless you can give examples of others who have compared the behaviour of a mainstream political party to the Nazis or other similar groups (Isis, North Korea) and not been reprimanded it is not factual to say the standards are not being applied equally.
It really isn’t unreasonable to have standards that allow people to disagree with things politely but don’t allow such criticism to turn into insults or hyperbole.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - lhx1985 - 10-03-2023

(10-03-2023, 09:05 PM)qwerty123 Wrote:  

(10-03-2023, 09:01 PM)Adsales Wrote:  It inevitably cannot be the correct decision if the standards are not applied across the board which they haven’t in recent years.

The issue isn’t that Gary has tweeted criticism of a government policy, which he and others have done in the past without repercussion. The issue is that he thought it acceptable to compare the policy of a mainstream political party (a policy which a not unsubstantial proportion of the country support) to the behaviour of the nazis.
Unless you can give examples of others who have compared the behaviour of a mainstream political party to the Nazis or other similar groups (Isis, North Korea) and not been reprimanded it is not factual to say the standards are not being applied equally.

Actually, he didn't. He compared the language used by the Foreign Sec to promote the policy to language used in the 1930s in Germany. 

That is quite a different thing.

If you are going to be posting in support of the BBCs action here, it might actually be beneficial to actually understand the 'incident' at the heart of the issue..

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Keith - 10-03-2023

Wonder if they've considered asking Dion Dublin, considering he's a former footballer with quite a bit of TV experience.

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