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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - James2001 - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 01:06 PM)aaron_scotland Wrote:  The BBC will be hoping this just blows over, and it might if all these people refusing to do their shows continue to do so next week but I doubt they will do it a 2nd time.

I think it's got too big now to just blow over.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Adsales - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 01:06 PM)Toby brown Wrote:  No sport at all on 5 live at the moment not just football

Confirmed all 5 Live Sport has been pulled.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - m_in_m - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 01:11 PM)Adsales Wrote:  

(11-03-2023, 01:06 PM)Toby brown Wrote:  No sport at all on 5 live at the moment not just football

Confirmed all 5 Live Sports has been pulled.

Confirmed where?

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - DTV - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 01:10 PM)harshy Wrote:  Maybe this is Tim’s master plan to get rid of the expensive bbc sports division where the pundits and presenters must be freelance, with all that money saved,  plough it back into the broken news channel, then he can say looked I saved the bbc news channel.

Given the rather disparate levels of public outcry over this and the changes to BBC News channel, I'm not sure this would really be a win.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - UTVLifer - 11-03-2023

https://twitter.com/calumam/status/1634525384417894400?s=61&t=9PSUu8dUPDOGotmQBtN_ig 

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - harshy - 11-03-2023

I am guessing the staff are there just the presenters are not showing up as solidarity?

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - lhx1985 - 11-03-2023

Staff wouldn't have the luxury of being able to down tools immediately. 

They would probably be unwise to broadcast 606. That would just be a sh--show.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - matthieu1221 - 11-03-2023

https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1634529504122077190 

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Stockland Hillman - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 01:00 PM)Adsales Wrote:  

(11-03-2023, 12:41 PM)Stockland Hillman Wrote:  There's not 'massive mistrust' anymore than usual.  The BBC isn't trusted by a significant number of people in the UK at any one time, the only difference is its a different side this time; the one that's usually sneering at people who protest the BBC

Tim Davie just needs to put Lineker on IR35, to clear up his tax status and obligation issue.  Everyone who's breached an agreement to perform a service should be dropped if they're freelance or put into disciplinary if staff.

Its utterly insane to defend someone who costs 10,000 peoples TV licences -the highest paid- yet doesn't have tax arrangements to pay his pair share in the same way as other BBC  workers have been forced to.

Not that anyone other than the courts can determine IR35 status, GL is fighting HMRC’s assessment of his status and should he be found to be inside IR35 then it would not only cost him but also the BBC which is why it is extremely unlikely for them to say anything other than he is outside IR35.

If he loses then they’re liable to pay years’ worth of national insurance contributions for GL and he would in fact be entitled to several years worth of holiday pay and other benefits provided to BBC staff.

So careful what you wish for.

I wish for someone paid millions of tax payers money to pay what is legally appropriate and - given his moral positions on others activities - morally due. 

I also wish BBC workers were treated consistently,  rather than privileges for a few.

This situation does highlight the fact BBC Sport needs a proper review. Does it do anything that can't be done in the open market?  Should it be paying commercial businesses fees for rights in a marketplace? Maybe for little wanted local sports rights,  but top flight Football  Rugby,  Cricket, Tennis?

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - matthieu1221 - 11-03-2023

(11-03-2023, 01:27 PM)Stockland Hillman Wrote:  

(11-03-2023, 01:00 PM)Adsales Wrote:  Not that anyone other than the courts can determine IR35 status, GL is fighting HMRC’s assessment of his status and should he be found to be inside IR35 then it would not only cost him but also the BBC which is why it is extremely unlikely for them to say anything other than he is outside IR35.

If he loses then they’re liable to pay years’ worth of national insurance contributions for GL and he would in fact be entitled to several years worth of holiday pay and other benefits provided to BBC staff.

So careful what you wish for.

I wish for someone paid millions of tax payers money to pay what is legally appropriate and - given his moral positions on others activities - morally due. 

I also wish BBC workers were treated consistently,  rather than privileges for a few.

This situation does highlight the fact BBC Sport needs a proper review. Does it do anything that can't be done in the open market?  Should it be paying commercial businesses fees for rights in a marketplace? Maybe for little wanted local sports rights,  but top flight Football  Rugby,  Cricket, Tennis?

(Responding to the last paragraph)

Oh dear, we're now calling for a review to punish the entire Sports team are we?

Fact is, EVERY SINGLE PART of what BBC does could be done by the open market. Just that the BBC can in theory do it without external interference which a commercial channel may not be able to for various reasons. Unfortunately the government hasn't taken it upon itself to in effect interfere with the BBC leading to all this.

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