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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - RhysJR - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 12:02 AM)dvboy Wrote:  
(12-03-2023, 11:57 PM)TMD_24 Wrote:  The WSL has different rights compared to the Premier League. Do they normally use World Feed commentary for some of the highlights games anyway?

According to the listings on ICDB, last Sunday's show didn't, but they did on the 12 February show.
https://icdb.tv/channel-list/2572/BBC-Womens-Football-Show 
Yeah, it varies from week to week, but the programme can often take world feed commentaries. Naturally the live BBC game's commentary is used. There is often one or two bespoke commentaries (usually on the Sky games), then the remainder games either have shorter edits featuring world feed commentary or a round-up report. They can utilise the world feed for the Sky games too, most of the commentators used on bespoke commentaries are interchangeable with the world feed really (Mark Scott the only MOTD regular I can remember doing a highlights-only commentary recently).

In the previous rights cycle, every match had an edit with the world feed commentary, bar the games that were live on the BBC Red Button or BT Sport, where those commentaries were used. The show was also a bit shorter then, so this week's 
edition was more similar to that - especially in length - minus a presenter and pundit linking into the highlights.


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Frances - 13-03-2023

(12-03-2023, 07:50 PM)James Wrote:  It's also an apple to pears comparison to be comparing Gary Lineker to the likes of Neil Oliver and Alan Sugar, in my view. The nature of their roles are very different.

Gary Lineker is a prominent BBC face, presenting MOTD and live football coverage on the BBC. He is representing the brand.

This is not the case for Neil Oliver and Alan Sugar - they are appearing on documentary/entertainment programming. Nobody hears those two names and immediately thinks 'BBC'. And most people watching 'Coast' this afternoon probably don't even have a clue that Neil now works on GBN.

That being said, I think that Gary should be able to express his views on social media as he presents sports coverage, not news. However, if the BBC are paying him £1.3m per year, then I don't think it would be unreasonable for them to impose restrictions on his social media usage if they wished to do so, providing it was explicitly stated in his contract.
Agree with insights into Coast but I think it might be appropriate to compare Lineker with Alan Sugar (and Andrew Neil).

It’s difficult to define who’s representing the BBC - as a freelancer, Gary Lineker was also a prominent talent of BT Sport with his Champions League coverage, until 2021.

Same as Alex Scott and Gabby Logan, both present sport coverage and SPOTY, but also have important roles on the BBC’s competitors.


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - oscillon - 13-03-2023

Sky News just posted:
Quote:Gary Lineker to return to hosting

Gary Lineker is due to return to hosting sport for the BBC, Sky Sports News understands.

It's understood the corporation will apologise to the Match of the Day presenter.

It is unclear if he will be back on air for the FA Cup quarter-finals this weekend, but a BBC announcement is expected later today.

https://news.sky.com/story/gary-lineker-latest-stars-pull-out-of-match-of-the-day-as-some-britons-cancel-tv-licence-over-bbc-row-12830851?postid=5612600#liveblog-body 


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Newsroom - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 10:40 AM)oscillon Wrote:  Sky News just posted:
Quote:Gary Lineker to return to hosting

Gary Lineker is due to return to hosting sport for the BBC, Sky Sports News understands.

It's understood the corporation will apologise to the Match of the Day presenter.

It is unclear if he will be back on air for the FA Cup quarter-finals this weekend, but a BBC announcement is expected later today.

https://news.sky.com/story/gary-lineker-latest-stars-pull-out-of-match-of-the-day-as-some-britons-cancel-tv-licence-over-bbc-row-12830851?postid=5612600#liveblog-body 
And to highlight ????

And it's understood the BBC will issue an apology.


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - lhx1985 - 13-03-2023

Well, what a farce.

I would imagine there'll be some incredible acrobatics and contortions in the pending apology, if as reported, one is due.

DG doesn't strike me as the kind of person to hold his hands up and say 'yeah, this is on me, I stuffed up.'


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Humphrey Hacker - 13-03-2023

There are no winners in this situation. Reputations have been damaged. Egos have been exposed and fans have been robbed. I'm hopeful this will lead to a few changes but...


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - oscillon - 13-03-2023

The i says the full statement will be out at 10 AM - in several minutes time
Quote:A full statement will be issued by the BBC at 10am.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/gary-lineker-return-match-of-the-day-tweet-no-restrictions-bbc-2204389 


UPD. And - it's out.
Quote:Lineker to return to air this weekend after BBC deal reached

Gary Lineker and BBC management have reached a deal to get the presenter back on air, after the weekend's disruption to BBC Sport schedules.

Director General Tim Davie says: “Gary is a valued part of the BBC and I know how much the BBC means to Gary, and I look forward to him presenting our coverage this coming weekend.”

In a statement, Davie also announces the BBC will launch an independent review into its social media guidelines, with a particular focus on freelancers outside news and current affairs like Lineker.

Gary Lineker says in the statement: "I am glad that we have found a way forward. I support this review and look forward to getting back on air."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64938252?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=640ef1f1b0a62a7df8d9a0c7%26Lineker%20to%20return%20to%20air%20this%20weekend%20after%20BBC%20deal%20reached%262023-03-13T10%3A00%3A01.478Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:6813be04-e198-47b2-bcaa-149a3664b120&pinned_post_asset_id=640ef1f1b0a62a7df8d9a0c7&pinned_post_type=share 

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The full statement itself:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/statements/director-general-tim-davie-gary-lineker 


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Humphrey Hacker - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 10:58 AM)oscillon Wrote:  The i says the full statement will be out at 10 AM - in several minutes time
Quote:A full statement will be issued by the BBC at 10am.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/gary-lineker-return-match-of-the-day-tweet-no-restrictions-bbc-2204389 

Hmm. The after shocks are going to continue for a long time.


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Adsales - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 10:53 AM)Humphrey Hacker Wrote:  There are no winners in this situation. Reputations have been damaged. Egos have been exposed and fans have been robbed. I'm hopeful this will lead to a few changes but...

Aren't there? I disagree. 

Freedom of speech is a clear winner. 
Lineker is a winner.
The BBC is a winner.

The government, Sharpe and Davie on the other hand...

Going forward, all non-news presenters will be able to say what their opinion is and that is how it should be. Unless the BBC imposes the same rules on all (which it can't for a number of reasons) - therefore it is a win-win situation.


RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - James2001 - 13-03-2023

Hard to see how "The BBC is a winner", this really has harmed them and made them look like government stooges.