Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Printable Version

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Humphrey Hacker - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 11:02 AM)Adsales Wrote:  

(13-03-2023, 10:53 AM)Humphrey Hacker Wrote:  There are no winners in this situation. Reputations have been damaged. Egos have been exposed and fans have been robbed. I'm hopeful this will lead to a few changes but...

Aren't there? I disagree. 

Freedom of speech is a clear winner. 
Lineker is a winner.
The BBC is a winner.

The government, Sharpe and Davie on the other hand...

Going forward, all non-news presenters will be able to say what their opinion is and that is how it should be. Unless the BBC imposes the same rules on all (which it can't for a number of reasons) - therefore it is a win-win situation.

It may be a win-win situation in the short term but I can see this rumbling on for a while to come.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Brekkie - 13-03-2023

(12-03-2023, 04:50 PM)Steve in Pudsey Wrote:  

(12-03-2023, 04:16 PM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  This is an interesting perspective that most people might not have thought of about having MOTD commentary-free.
https://twitter.com/RNIB/status/1634888994042556416?r 

But how useful is a TV commentary to a blind person? Wouldn't the radio coverage be better?

Maybe they should add the radio commentary on the AD channel as a matter of course?

There isn't a radio highlights equivalent though as far as I know.   Obviously far more live commentary, but I don't think I've ever seen audio highlights of events made available.

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Glad he is reinstated but a reinstatement and an apology is not enough - those who've undermined the integrity and the independence of the BBC in the call they made late on Friday afternoon must resign - and that includes the chairman and the DG. There is no way the BBC can move forward with them at the top.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Adsales - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 11:05 AM)James2001 Wrote:  Hard to see how "The BBC is a winner", this really has harmed them and made them look like government stooges.

The BBC as the institution it is, is a winner. It and its staff have forced a balance by walking out, entirely ignoring what the DG and Chairman wanted to do. It is down to those who acted in solidarity of GL that the DG had to issue a grovelling apology for trying to muzzle a sports presenter whilst letting others, closer aligned with government policies, say and do as they please.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Newsroom - 13-03-2023

Linekar's Tweet indicates what's happened here.

He's not agreed to stop tweeting his views on matters he feels passionate about .

A final thought: however difficult the last few days have been, it simply doesn’t compare to having to flee your home from persecution or war to seek refuge in a land far away. It’s heartwarming to have seen the empathy towards their plight from so many of you. 3/4

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - James2001 - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 11:14 AM)Adsales Wrote:  

(13-03-2023, 11:05 AM)James2001 Wrote:  Hard to see how "The BBC is a winner", this really has harmed them and made them look like government stooges.

The BBC as the institution it is, is a winner. It and its staff have forced a balance by walking out, entirely ignoring what the DG and Chairman wanted to do. It is down to those who acted in solidarity of GL that the DG had to issue a grovelling apology for trying to muzzle a sports presenter whilst letting others, closer aligned with government policies, say and do as they please.

The BBC will only be a winner if said DG and Chairman go. If they hang on, then they're continuing to taint it.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Happy2001 - 13-03-2023

From Tim Davie:
“Gary has agreed to abide by the guidance whilst the independent review takes place."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64938252 

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - oscillon - 13-03-2023

Meanwhile Tim Davie, back in the UK, believes that Gary Lineker will respect the existing guidlelines while the review of them takes place:

Quote:Our Media Correspondent David Sillito has been speaking to BBC Director General Tim Davie. We'll have more from that interview in a moment but here's a breaking line.

Davie says: “Gary has agreed to abide by the guidance whilst the independent review takes place."

We're yet to have Lineker himself confirm this but he's tweeting a thread out right now.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - lhx1985 - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 11:14 AM)Adsales Wrote:  

(13-03-2023, 11:05 AM)James2001 Wrote:  Hard to see how "The BBC is a winner", this really has harmed them and made them look like government stooges.

The BBC as the institution it is, is a winner. It and its staff have forced a balance by walking out, entirely ignoring what the DG and Chairman wanted to do. It is down to those who acted in solidarity of GL that the DG had to issue a grovelling apology for trying to muzzle a sports presenter whilst letting others, closer aligned with government policies, say and do as they please.

I think the BBC could potentially stand to win in the long term... but that depends on how the review is handled.
For example, if they announce that the review is to be chaired by Robbie Gibb, then they've immediately flunked it. (Though that clearly won't happen).

In the short to medium turn the BBC is a loser in terms of its reputational damage. It's got a lot of ground to make up here.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Brekkie - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 11:16 AM)Happy2001 Wrote:  From Tim Davie:
“Gary has agreed to abide by the guidance whilst the independent review takes place."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64938252 

Although Gary has somewhat contradicted that already. It very much sounds like a non-apology from Tim Davie and his plan is to tighten the social media guidelines rather than protect the freedom of speech of BBC employers and the independence of the BBC.

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RE: Gary Lineker/BBC Asylum Controversy - Adsales - 13-03-2023

(13-03-2023, 11:26 AM)Brekkie Wrote:  

(13-03-2023, 11:16 AM)Happy2001 Wrote:  From Tim Davie:
“Gary has agreed to abide by the guidance whilst the independent review takes place."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64938252 

Although Gary has somewhat contradicted that already.  It very much sounds like a non-apology from Tim Davie and his plan is to tighten the social media guidelines rather than protect the freedom of speech of BBC employers and the independence of the BBC.

Good luck to him... that would result in all freelancers being deemed as inside IR35, making the BBC responsible for employer NICs, holiday & sick pay plus any other benefits provided to its employees.

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