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RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - JAS84 - 02-01-2024

(02-01-2024, 08:12 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  It's usually football overruns or the President deciding he wants to make a speech that will see content "pre-empted". Nowadays I think the networks are a bit more flexible and will run a few minutes late but in the past it was not unusual at all for shows to just join a network show that was already in progress - so you might miss the first 10-20 minutes and then join the show. Otherwise shows might be bumped to overnight, which would often be 01:37 or 02:07, one the network late chat shows were completed. Digital sub-channels tend not to be used in the US as they're usually leased out to third parties, but in Canada now if a show can't air on the main network it will likely air on a digital off-shoot.
Yeah, I've been reading the TV Tropes page for Jeopardy!, and it mentions that both it and Wheel of Fortune will sometimes be joined already in progress or pre-empted completely due to overrunning sport. It's definitely not something that ever happens in the UK.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Brekkie - 02-01-2024

I doubt it would happen with a pre-recorded show but it has certainly happened with live sport - if BBC Wales has opted out to show live rugby for example it might then opt back in to join the snooker on the network for example - and similarly viewers in the nations used to often leave some shows early too (I think Children's BBC would often say goodbye to viewers in Northern Ireland). But yes, for an unexpected event we'd usually delay or adjust the schedule rather than just join the originally planned schedule mid-programme.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Steve in Pudsey - 02-01-2024

Programmes following live sport frequently get dropped due to overruns. You do occasionally get a situation where say BBC Two network is carrying a longform sports event like live athletics all afternoon and BBC Wales or NI joins partway through.

I guess Sky Sports Main Event staying with an overrunning Premier League match then joining the build up to the Championship match which has already started on Sky Sports Football is quite close to that.
(02-01-2024, 09:53 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  But yes, for an unexpected event we'd usually delay or adjust the schedule rather than just join the originally planned schedule mid-programme.

The only exception I can think of didn't actually happen, the night when Fathers 4 Justice disrupted the Lottery draw. Had it taken a minute or so more to deal with the interruption they would have ended up crashing into the Eurovision

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Roger Darthwell - 02-01-2024

(02-01-2024, 08:36 PM)JAS84 Wrote:  Yeah, I've been reading the TV Tropes page for Jeopardy!, and it mentions that both it and Wheel of Fortune will sometimes be joined already in progress or pre-empted completely due to overrunning sport. It's definitely not something that ever happens in the UK.

I can only imagine how annoying that must be for the viewer

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - thegeek - 02-01-2024

This is going back about 10 years, but I once saw a situation where TNT were showing two back-to-back NBA games. The first over-ran, so they interrupted the film in progress on TBS to show the start of the second match. Once TNT were able to join, TBS went back to the film. From the start.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Rdd - 03-01-2024

It would happens with, say, election or political coverage in the nations - I seem to recall it happened semi- frequently on both BBC NI and UTV in the late 1990s around the time building up to the Good Friday Agreement.

There was of course the infamous incident where UTV opted out of GMTV to cover a breaking news story which resulted in them losing the local GMTV news contract for a long time.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Steve in Pudsey - 03-01-2024

There was that weird one a few years ago during a strike where somebody thought it was a good idea to extend the One Show to run 6.30-7.30. Regions which couldn't get a programme out took the whole thing, others crashed into it when they ran out of material. I suspect some clean opt points were provided but not all regions were able to hit them.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - radiorebel - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 12:26 AM)Rdd Wrote:  It would happens with, say, election or political coverage in the nations - I seem to recall it happened semi- frequently on both BBC NI and UTV in the late 1990s around the time building up to the Good Friday Agreement.

There was of course the infamous incident where UTV opted out of GMTV to cover a breaking news story which resulted in them losing the local GMTV news contract for a long time.

I remember it happening in either 2013 or 2015 during Barack Obamas visit to Belfast, they opted out of Daybreak/GMB can’t remember which one.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Mike - 03-01-2024

(03-01-2024, 12:26 AM)Rdd Wrote:  There was of course the infamous incident where UTV opted out of GMTV to cover a breaking news story which resulted in them losing the local GMTV news contract for a long time.

Was it not the ceasefire in 1994, UTV cut into their time to provide a more tailored and fitting NI perspective without telling GMTV, and GMTV retaliated by cutting their feed and forcing their programming onto UTV's transmitters and then contracting out the regional news to another firm.

Obviously these days it would be unthinkable that it would be such an issue, but GMTV owned the channel 3 licence between 6 and 9.25am, so it was a big deal to them.

RE: The Media Question Amnesty Thread - Rdd - 03-01-2024

Yes, that was it. It differs from pre-emption I guess in that UTV, of course, were not legally entitled to do what they did, as they didn’t have a broadcasting license for that time slot. It had lasting impact in that for nearly two decades GMTV/ITV Breakfast wouldn’t deal with UTV, and farmed out the NI news to a series of companies (first Reuters, who produced GMTV’s national news at the time, then ITN, then MacMillan) before, having forgotten at this stage why they had the row in the first place, they finally handed it back to UTV in 2013.