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RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Brekkie - 30-07-2023

No huge surprise, though the kids panel is better. The main series plods on unspectacular though - a revival of The X Factor would create more buzz, but cost more too presumably- and sadly suspect ITV would rather keep a show as long as it breaks even than take a risk in reviving a pricier format which if it went well could bring in more revenue, but if not could run as a loss.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - iloveTV1 - 30-07-2023

Think the kids series has lost out as a result of the diminishing performance of the adult show. When it started, it was the same length as the adult show is now, but then they evidently shortened it, then moved it’s slot to Christmas when the main show moved to October so the two wouldn’t run too close together, and then it was moved back to Summer this year as the main show is airing in November/December.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - cando - 30-07-2023

(29-07-2023, 11:39 PM)iloveTV1 Wrote:  The Voice Kids has been axed, but the main show will continue.

I read somewhere there would be some specials next year instead of the Voice Kids.  I wonder if we will see "The Voice Senior" or something 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voice_Senior_(Dutch_TV_series) 

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Brekkie - 30-07-2023

If they wanted to replace the episodes surely just expanding the main series again by 2-3 episodes would be the most cost effective option, especially given how rushed it is now.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Newshound47 - 30-07-2023

(30-07-2023, 08:41 AM)Brekkie Wrote:  No huge surprise, though the kids panel is better.  The main series plods on unspectacular though - a revival of The X Factor would create more buzz, but cost more too presumably- and sadly suspect ITV would rather keep a show as long as it breaks even than take a risk in reviving a pricier format which if it went well could bring in more revenue, but if not could run as a loss.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12352487/Is-Simon-Cowell-QUITTING-Mogul-turns-fame-not-fortune-stay-home-dad-selling-45million-Holland-Park-mansion-moving-Oxfordshire-countryside.html 
Not sure the X Factor will be coming back anytime soon at least with Cowell on the panel.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Score - 30-07-2023

That Mail article about Cowell appears to be an awful lot spun out of him selling his house and moving to the countryside. It’s hardly that unusual a thing to do and he still does a fair bit of TV with Britain’s Got Talent, America’s Got Talent plus an annual AGT spin-off (they did All Stars at the beginning of this year and have confirmed another spin-off for this Winter coming).

It was only a few months ago he was talking up a return for X Factor and I suspect if ITV (or another network) were to express an interest in rebooting it then he’d be interested. Although I don’t think him actually appearing on it is essential I suspect he would.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Brekkie - 30-07-2023

Yes - it might be more beneficial for him not to appear. Suspect then if it flopped he'd return for as it's saviour should it get a second run.

Otherwise if not The X Factor a second BGT: Champions series for early autumn 2024 wouldn't be the worst idea. It would be 5 years since the last and not feel like the US version where they milk it each year.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Score - 30-07-2023

It would be interesting to see what a reboot of The X Factor would actually look like. You’d assume they wouldn’t commit to weeks and weeks of live shows which feels risky and out of sync with an increasingly catch up driven audience. I also can’t imagine they’d commit to anything like the c40 hours of TV it used to run for. I imagine they’d focus more on the pre-recorded rounds, auditions should really be in the rooms, then possibly a new reality element for the middle stages before a few live shows (maybe a stripped week like BGT?). They’d definitely need to modernise it, with less of the “searching for a star” rhetoric as with the way the charts are now, odds are they won’t find one.

A second BGT Champions series isn’t a bad idea although I think at least the final would have to be live, that was lacking last time and the winner leaking was really poor. They could maybe format it slightly differently too. A stripped week like the main show would be better than a weekly run but with the new soap schedule I doubt ITV ‘would’ be interested in that. Although ITV seem to like doing one off specials of their entertainment shows at the moment (BGT The Ultimate Magician, Masked Singer IAC Special, talk of Voice specials). So maybe they’ll go down that route again with BGT this Christmas.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - Keith - 30-07-2023

(30-07-2023, 07:56 PM)Score Wrote:  It was only a few months ago he was talking up a return for X Factor and I suspect if ITV (or another network) were to express an interest in rebooting it then he’d be interested.
I think the biggest problem for the X Factor is scandals from the original run resurfacing. Perhaps fortunately Cowell has come out of the latest one reasonably well.

RE: ITV Autumn 2022 Programming - sjames - 31-07-2023

It's disappointing to see The Voice Kids axed as I enjoyed it a lot more than the main show which I gave up on long ago. I think the problem with it as others have mentioned is that the last couple of series have felt too rushed with the way they cut the number of episodes. To go straight from auditions to the final is weird with no middle bit. It definitely needed an extra episode or two.

I don't know what the ratings were like on the most recent series, but I wonder if having it so soon after the Christmas series felt like it was being rushed out to get it over and done with?

(30-07-2023, 09:04 PM)Score Wrote:  It would be interesting to see what a reboot of The X Factor would actually look like. You’d assume they wouldn’t commit to weeks and weeks of live shows which feels risky and out of sync with an increasingly catch up driven audience. I also can’t imagine they’d commit to anything like the c40 hours of TV it used to run for. I imagine they’d focus more on the pre-recorded rounds, auditions should really be in the rooms, then possibly a new reality element for the middle stages before a few live shows (maybe a stripped week like BGT?). They’d definitely need to modernise it, with less of the “searching for a star” rhetoric as with the way the charts are now, odds are they won’t find one.

A combination of the early X Factor series and the recent BBC 3 series Project Icon I think would work. A lot of talent shows now focus too much on positivity, everyone's great even if they can't sing a note. What made Pop Idol and X Factor different in the early years was the honesty - that needs to come back.

So I'd have the room auditions, some kind of mini boot camp to cut down the contestants putting them through their paces in a series of challenges to find their strengths and weaknesses. The judges are watching this secretly and then decide who they want on their teams - no categories, mixed age range to make it more competitive.
Then would be the live shows which can still have themes, but during each week the contestants then have other challenges to do to see how they cope, like filming a music video, engaging with followers on social media to make some viral, doing interviews etc, all to give them the skills for after the show ends.