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RE: Sky News - Stockland Hillman - 23-01-2024
(23-01-2024, 02:39 PM)Former Member 237 Wrote: Didn’t Sky have practically studio B in 2005 in the old sky news centre? (I miss that era and prefer it, but what they have now is still better than BBC)
The BBC did not set any standard with studio B, it’s just a couple of video walls. I’m not saying it’s not a good studio, and decent quality, but there was nothing there to “rip off”. The BBC was and is still behind. Those recent small touch screens are a good example they just dumped in the middle of the newsroom. Not to mention the dress down that has occurred and lack of professional line up.
It's not "dress down" is dress as pretty much every professional workplace in the last decade.
The obsession some UK audiences (and channel execs) have with men in tie/jacket is ludicrous. Including Sky News.
Also unfair to describe a lack of "professional" line up. The BBC should have made better choices, use and value of its existing talent - but that doenst in any way make the on air talent unprofessional.
RE: Sky News - Former Member 237 - 23-01-2024
(23-01-2024, 03:09 PM)Stockland Hillman Wrote: It's not "dress down" is dress as pretty much every professional workplace in the last decade.
The obsession some UK audiences (and channel execs) have with men in tie/jacket is ludicrous. Including Sky News.
Also unfair to describe a lack of "professional" line up. The BBC should have made better choices, use and value of its existing talent - but that doenst in any way make the on air talent unprofessional.
Well, we will have to disagree about the dress in the work place. If you don’t have a set standard, how far do you let it go? It’s important to remember that these news channels are broadcast worldwide, and represent the UK.
In terms of line up I referring more to style and presentation, rather that actual presenters. Sky and ITV have a much more professional appearance and tone. The BBC has been slipping for some time.
RE: Sky News - matthieu1221 - 23-01-2024
(23-01-2024, 12:22 PM)Gibsy Wrote: We all need to tweet David Rhodes re the music
I think they could even just bring back the 2005 theme and we'd be fine with it!
RE: Sky News - ginnyfan - 23-01-2024
^^^^ I was thinking how great that would be! With all the recent improvements and positive changes, the grandiose 2005 theme would be a cherry on top.
RE: Sky News - Craigwills - 23-01-2024
(22-01-2024, 11:40 PM)all new phil Wrote: Great looking show and Yalda is fantastic, as we all knew already.
Only concern, and it applies to The UK Tonight and Politics Hub too, is they’re a bit too narrow in focus. I don’t think the news fits into neat little hour-long boxes depending on what the story is. They were lucky tonight in big international news breaking during Yalda’s show, but would they have run with a domestic breaking story in the same way? I’m confident they’re prepared for this, but I find it quite jarring how the whole agenda changes each hour.
It’s not quite to the level of the terrible James Rubin show in this way but I’m interested to see how the three main evening strands develop over time. I could see The World moving later and Politics Hub / UK Tonight merging together.
Whilst I do quite like the evening schedule with Sophy, SJ and Yalda bring quite unique styles, I’m left wondering if Dermot’s programme did all three strands pretty well, politically focused at times from Westminster but also delving deeper into the bigger stories of the day, wether international or UK based.
I imagine these three shows have a lot more resources than Sky News Tonight did, but is the end product worth it?
RE: Sky News - Luc - 23-01-2024
(23-01-2024, 10:11 PM)Craigwills Wrote: Whilst I do quite like the evening schedule with Sophy, SJ and Yalda bring quite unique styles, I’m left wondering if Dermot’s programme did all three strands pretty well, politically focused at times from Westminster but also delving deeper into the bigger stories of the day, wether international or UK based.
I imagine these three shows have a lot more resources than Sky News Tonight did, but is the end product worth it?
I think it is, and the change was deliberate by the looks of it. The Dermot show was pretty dry, nowhere ratings wise and Sky News was/is also losing share to GB News in the evenings, so this is a way of shaking it up while staying true to the channel's values.
I'd say the UK Tonight is the weak spot as I'm not sure who's seeking out a UK news programme at 8pm? It's also had no newsmaking interviews so far, whereas the Politics Hub at least has the potential to do that in the run-up to the UK and US general elections.
I like the changes myself and don't doubt they'll go to rolling news mode during any of these programmes anyway. Interesting how the feeling on here was that they were stripping down the channel and switching focus to the website but there's a clear 180 degree turn since Ryley left. Not sure if it'll have any effect on the ratings though.
RE: Sky News - mouseboy33 - 23-01-2024
Speaking of themes. This is the problem with having a news theme with only one cut. SkyNews doesnt need to dump the current theme ( they should cos its a bit dry) but they need a variety of cuts of the main theme. Because on a rolling news channel, nowadays when you have signature programming but various programmes, you will need a theme to fit. News music theme producers create a package with various cuts which can be used for a multitude of programmes. But themes retain the DNA of the orignal theme especially a memorable signature.
For context.
THE GREAT NEWS PACKAGE - GARI MUSIC (The original SkyNews launch theme which was created originally for WXIA 11ALIVE Atlanta)
http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,49
THE GUARDIAN from Stephen Arnold Music its used on over 60 stations in the US.
http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,1938
HIGH VELOCITY - 615 MUSIC
http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,10
NEWSTIME-615 MUSIC
http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,35
PALMER NEWS PACKAGE - 10 FULL MINS
http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,166
HELLO NEWS - GARI MUSIC
http://www.newsmusicsearcharchive.com/#3,1,50
RE: Sky News - Rdd - 23-01-2024
Interesting you mention Frank Gari in the last of those, as his "The Great News Package" will be well remembered by long time Sky News viewers as its original theme music (1989-1995). Don’t think anyone’s suggesting it should go back to that at this point, it was very American and very 1980s (which suited early 1990s Sky to a T, but thirty years on perhaps not!).
RE: Sky News - Mike - 24-01-2024
(23-01-2024, 11:38 PM)Rdd Wrote: Interesting you mention Frank Gari in the last of those, as his “The Great News Package” will be well remembered by long time Sky News viewers as its original theme music (1989-1995). Don’t think anyone’s suggesting it should go back to that at this point, it was very American and very 1980s (which suited early 1990s Sky to a T, but thirty years on perhaps not!).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRUjPfVxgSc
Let's not forget that Frank Gari did all the Sky channels in 1993, so it's likely that the news theme was imported by virtue of that
RE: Sky News - mouseboy33 - 24-01-2024
(23-01-2024, 11:38 PM)Rdd Wrote: Interesting you mention Frank Gari in the last of those, as his "The Great News Package" will be well remembered by long time Sky News viewers as its original theme music (1989-1995). Don’t think anyone’s suggesting it should go back to that at this point, it was very American and very 1980s (which suited early 1990s Sky to a T, but thirty years on perhaps not!).
No sorry you got confused mate. What I said is they need to have alternative cuts of their main theme. And I used those to provide context. Didnt suggest they go back to their old launch theme or using an American theme or an old theme from the 80s. Sorry you misunderstood, but did actually say those examples were for context. But its all good mate.