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RE: Sky News - Kojak - 21-02-2023

(21-02-2023, 01:55 PM)Krede Wrote:  https://order-order.com/2023/02/21/sky-news-and-itv-slammed-for-ghoulish-bulley-coverage/ 

I suppose Guido’s beloved GB News can do no wrong, though?


RE: Sky News - matthieu1221 - 21-02-2023

I think everyone was in the wrong in this case. The amount of YouTube recommendations I got from everyone from the Sun/Sky News/The Guardian/etc... for a non-development daily on this story was ludicrous. Every breaking news alert push notification too.

These are people's lives. Can't imagine what the family had to deal with, with on top of that all the TikTokkers and amateur detectives (was not aware that was happening but that is shameful).

At the end of the day, we are all complicit. They do it because it rates well on TV and sells more papers. It's capitalism after all. Why stop (if within OFCOM or whichever regulatory agency's remit) if it sells well despite how distasteful a story is?

https://www.private-eye.co.uk/pictures/covers/full/932_big.jpg 


RE: Sky News - Worzel - 21-02-2023

(20-02-2023, 11:46 PM)DTV Wrote:  
(20-02-2023, 10:45 PM)Kojak Wrote:  With talk of the BBC supposedly having presenters walking around the newsroom and pieces done from the balcony, I have to wonder if there will be any chance Sky will follow suit? They pioneered it in the UK, after all. Sky News Today from 2002-2005 was brilliant.
We'll have to wait and see what happens, but the BBC News channel were going to be making regular trips into the newsroom when they moved in to NBH ten years ago - they did a bit on the first day, then gave up pretty quickly. Not surprising, it added nothing and was presumably a pain to organise.

I do hope the same happens here - I have no problem with multiple presentation areas or standing presentation, but prancing about is at best pointless and at worst downright distracting and irritating. I know a lot of you have a fondness for the Sky News Centre era, but for me it was presentationally fairly indistinguishable from 'what if The Day Today team had done a follow-up special 15 years later'.
Presentation from the newsroom 'pit' happened far more when BBC World News first moved in to NBH. They'd regularly cross to reporters 'in the World's Newsroom' with a manual camera operator. 

From memory, the News channel did go into the newsroom on the first day on air in NBH with Nick Higham, the second day with Matthew Amroliwala (see video below), when the Queen opened NBH, when the Baton Relay came through the newsroom and one time when a bunch of viewers were taken around the newsroom to see how the newsgathering operation worked (Tulip Mazumbar was the reporter).

https://youtu.be/uFfFDz8X2Lw 

Re. the video above, that is what they should be doing a bit more of. Not necessarily 'prancing around'. Not to please us pres geeks but even casual viewers would find it interesting how it all works. The behind the scenes live streams on Facebook were always quite popular.


RE: Sky News - DTV - 21-02-2023

(21-02-2023, 08:24 PM)Worzel Wrote:  Re. the video above, that is what they should be doing a bit more of. Not necessarily 'prancing around'. Not to please us pres geeks but even casual viewers would find it interesting how it all works. The behind the scenes live streams on Facebook were always quite popular.
I really disagree. Might be justifiable occasionally, but these kinds of segments are slow, unnecessary and should not become regular features. Walking over to somebody in the newsroom, explaining slowly what you are doing - all wastes time in a medium that is supposed to avoid time wasting. If a reporter has something interesting to say, they should be brought into the studio and deliver their report there, not bothered at their desk (which, aside from anything, will have worse sound and lighting and cause disruption to their neighbouring colleagues).

I'm all for interesting presentation, but changes should always work to add to my understanding of the story. Presentation that is just different for its own sake is just a gimmick.


RE: Sky News - neonemesis - 22-02-2023

I'm not sure I agree with the premise. Adding some dynamism to presentation is always a good thing in my view. For years we begged the BBC to embrace standing presentation more.

My response to the above is to just solve those problems. Ensure sound and lighting is adequate, that the segments are pacey and that the person being 'bothered' at their desk is prepared to go on air.

Sure, you could argue that the same could be achieved (probably more simply) by bringing them into the studio. But all stand up presentation could be done behind a desk, yet we begged for something else.

Variety is the spice of life. Let's see what they do with it. If they do it badly, it's just a gimmick and should be canned. If they do it well, it should be kept.


RE: Sky News - Matrix - 22-02-2023

I think there's two points worth playing out here.

Firstly, there has to be a decision about whether a newsroom is a newsroom or whether it's a studio. It has quite a profound impact in terms of working practices and cultures. Pause and consider, for one minute, if a correspondent is doing a piece to camera in a live newsroom and a category one story breaks. Aside from the background noise, there are a myriad of screens which suddenly could become problematic. Practically, it also just stops the informal 'have you heard X' type conversations when in a live environment.

Secondly, if it is to be a studio then it needs to be kitted out like a studio. Lights alone are vastly different from your typical office set up, not to mention broadcast zone fire procedures (aka an alarm ringing or not), camera rigs (all those forays into the newsroom when the Beeb first moved to NBH came will a snake of cabling which was, to say the least, cumbersome).

I do favour the use of newsrooms - particularly for that presentational aspect of being authentic and dynamic. So (so) much better than some mocked up window view which just screams naff. That said, it needs thinking through and, ideally, not just the cosmetic aspects but ways of working.


RE: Sky News - aaron_scotland - 22-02-2023

I dont understand why Sky are playing a muted Russian party during PMQs?? It's so irrelevant and distracting.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1628372998116806656 


RE: Sky News - Pips2022 - 27-02-2023

David Rhodes has just been announced as the new Executive Chairman, Sky News Group- essentially replacing John Ryley (with other responsibilities including TG24) with Sky mainstay Jonathan Levy also promoted into Managing Director and Executive Editor, Sky News UK


RE: Sky News - Kojak - 27-02-2023

Wow. Didn’t see that coming. I was convinced Christina Nicolotti would be the new boss.


RE: Sky News - Worzel - 27-02-2023

Here's the official press release...

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/article/sky-announces-new-leadership-appointments-for-sky-news-group