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RE: BBC/ITV North West News - Otis Crump - 13-01-2024
I don't remember Granada Weather ever having this awful, twee sting...
https://youtu.be/JQus8l0qCZI?si=sE1cfKx8zTGkC7N0&t=382
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - all new phil - 13-01-2024
(13-01-2024, 12:07 PM)Otis Crump Wrote: I don't remember Granada Weather ever having this awful, twee sting...
https://youtu.be/JQus8l0qCZI?si=sE1cfKx8zTGkC7N0&t=382
Oh god I do. I think it was only used briefly whilst they were between sponsors.
Good video though - there was so much about that overall look for Granada News that looked good (the purple and the angled logo were rather nice), but the jarring use of Bank Gothic and the awful titles ruined it. Classic case of something clearly created by a non-creative.
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - nwtv2003 - 13-01-2024
(13-01-2024, 12:07 PM)Otis Crump Wrote: I don't remember Granada Weather ever having this awful, twee sting...
https://youtu.be/JQus8l0qCZI?si=sE1cfKx8zTGkC7N0&t=382
It wasn’t used for long, but as stated it was used when there were no available sponsors. This was during the period when the duty announcers were no longer reading the forecast and was the responsibility of the weather team at Yorkshire who kept it out of vision until 2002 when Granada standardised all of its weather presentation for all of their regions bar LWT.
I’m guessing the same may have also applied to Border. Tyne Tees still had in vision forecasters at that time (Bob Johnson or whoever was available in Leeds). Obviously Granada had a certain Mr Talbot but his duties were kept to the main Granada Tonight programme, but his appearances were few and far between in this period.
By the time Granada did standardise the weather, United Utilities were the main sponsors and their stings were a vast improvement of that, and those we have now… Wet wipes?
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - Mike - 13-01-2024
(13-01-2024, 12:49 PM)all new phil Wrote: Good video though - there was so much about that overall look for Granada News that looked good (the purple and the angled logo were rather nice), but the jarring use of Bank Gothic and the awful titles ruined it. Classic case of something clearly created by a non-creative.
I may be totally wrong about this, but I thought those titles were actually an off the shelf 'pre made' template used for American news broadcasts that Granada had bought, hence the Bank Gothic - ISTR some very similar American affiliates using near identical titles and it being mentioned over on the blue place.
Edit: TV Ark quite helpfully points in the right direction, it was a corporate package for a group of affiliates introduced in 1996 that somehow Granada ended up with:
https://youtu.be/KI55TIWcX7k?si=6qCcv5vNCb-dAeFg&t=319
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - Brekkie - 13-01-2024
There was a period around the turn of the century after they phased out Granada Tonight and resurrected Granada Reports than their news presentation looks very garish for a few years. One of the few regions who benefitted from the standardisation of ITV Regional News.
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - nwtv2003 - 13-01-2024
(13-01-2024, 04:18 PM)Brekkie Wrote: There was a period around the turn of the century after they phased out Granada Tonight and resurrected Granada Reports than their news presentation looks very garish for a few years. One of the few regions who benefitted from the standardisation of ITV Regional News.
In hindsight the American style package was decent enough on screen, it was the This Morning style set and format that let it down, more so when it was an hour in length.
When Granada Reports was rebooted in 2001, the presentation I would argue was the very best it had been for a long time. It was classy, Newsy and felt more like the presentation Granada offered in their other northern regions.
When Tony Morris joined 2 years later, they refreshed the look and it was a step back, the titles felt cheap and had that Granada Weather vibe to them. The set was also worse. If they knew that the generic look was around the corner why bother with the entire refresh? But you’re correct Granada was probably one of the only few regions that benefited from the generic roll out in 2004.
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - lookoutwales - 13-01-2024
That weather ident hung around quite a bit depending on whether they had a sponsor or not (eventually, they secured United Utilities on a long-term deal)
Yes, there was something quite iffy overall about the various news designs that Granada had in the run up to the ITVplc merger - certainly other regions looked a good deal more modern (and AFAIK, the technology at Quay Street wasn’t much older than what NWT were using at Oxford Road)
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - VMPhil - 15-01-2024
The final "Granada Tonight" look was pretty much doing all the 90s stuff that was in fashion at the time, it doesn't look modern now but that's what was pretty contemporary at the time.
I think the final two independent Granada Reports looks are still pretty good. Yes the first one I think does look better and still holds up more than the later one, however I thought the later one actually had some pretty nice opening titles...
https://youtu.be/nPaC5X_bobQ?feature=shared&t=9
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - Spencer - 15-01-2024
Yes definitely not the worst pre-generic look set of regional news titles.
I think Calendar probably holds that title with this, thankfully short-lived, hideous effort:
https://tvark.org/calendar-20
RE: BBC/ITV North West News - lookoutwales - 15-01-2024
I didn't mind those titles too much - minimalist and half hearted as they were (and the Duncan and Christine era didn't really start to gel until they got both of them into the new corporate studio)
One thing that was notable around the time of the merger was how feature / magazine content started to outweigh the hard news in certain regions.
Wouldn't have meant a great deal of difference or Calendar or even Granada Reports (Caroline Whitmore popped up practically every night with her obligatory 'celebs visiting the region' story) but it was certainly notable elsewhere.
Anglia noted some of these changes in one of their programme review statements - weighting around 40% news / 60% features (though I'd argue it was even heavier for features at times)
Technical quality was, again, another thing. There were definitely a lot more technical hitches on ITV Wales News post-merger - they were still working off analogue tape until fairly late on (BBC Wales were using Digibeta) and relying on some quite basic graphics for stories, almost Clip Art quality.
Suffice to say they were in urgent need of the technical rollout when it did come their way (quite a bit was made out of North Wales getting its own SNG truck - whereas now, with their LiveU facilities, they can usually manage up to three OBs a night on Wales at Six)