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RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - Brekkie - 06-06-2023

(06-06-2023, 03:23 PM)Rdd Wrote:  Potentially massive breaking golf story that may effect tv rights down the road…PGA Tour, PGA European Tour and LIV Golf to merge…sounds like an April Fools’s joke but it’s not…

https://www.pgatour.com/article/news/latest/2023/06/06/pga-tour-dp-world-tour-and-pif-announce-newly-formed--commercial-entity-to-unify-golf 

Sadly money talks.  LIV couldn't beat them so they bought them.

I think the UK rights are a bit complicated - didn't Eurosport win the US PGA I think but has ended up leasing them back to Sky? Think Sky have the European rights, whilst majors are sold separately. Like cricket has been though golf is now pretty much in the wildnerness as far as exposure on UK TV is concerned - indeed even more so now considering the current cricket deal with the BBC gives the sport it's highest profile on FTA since the 2005 Ashes.


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - Rdd - 06-06-2023

Yes, the PGA Tour had done a long term “world except US” deal with Discovery, with the intention of moving over to a D2C platform Golf TV, as deals in each market expired. But then Sky suddenly announced they had renewed their PGA Tour rights, apparently on a sublicense from Discovery, an odd move given they had an existing linear presence although I don’t think they had bought into BT Sport at that point. Since then the strategy has obviously changed, and Golf TV has shut in the markets it had launched in.

I just think this is one sport that just isn’t ready, even now, for D2C streaming as it’s only outlet, and what happened really reflects that.


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - RhysJR - 07-06-2023

In 2018, Discovery won the rights globally outside North America (and similar to their Olympics deal they would pick up the rights as previous deals would expire). In June last year, what is now WBD agreed a "multi-year agreement" for Sky to sublet the rights in the UK and Ireland to continue broadcasting all of the tour.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-discovery-announce-dollar2-billion-global-netflix-style-media-deal 
https://www.skysports.com/golf/news/12176/12628662/sky-sports-announces-multi-year-extension-to-pga-tour-coverage-with-new-warner-bros-discovery-agreement 


In 2018, it appeared Discovery was going to go big on golf, launching the previously mentioned GOLFTV service and taking the European Tour and major rights in many territories. That ambition has seemed to have died, with deals like the one with Sky in the UK and the renogation of the agreement with the PGA Tour, handing the rights for "Asia, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and those areas in Europe and Latin America not covered by discovery+ and Eurosport" in January this year. This appears to be partly down to budget restarint post-merger and GOLFTV not being the success it was hoped to be.

https://www.si.com/golf/news/pga-tour-warner-bros-discovery-restructure-international-media-rights 
https://golf.com/news/inside-golftv-end-pga-tour-broadcast-hot-mic/ 


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - RhysJR - 07-06-2023

The now-standard graphics style of ICC events used in the ICC World Test Championship final at The Oval, but I think this is one of the worst looking colour palettes for them. It is the same colour palette used for the 2021 edition of the match.

https://twitter.com/7Cricket/status/1666454356093284355?s=20 

Sky Sports are taking the full ICC/Sunset+Vine production, which means we've got the slightly odd look of the BBC's Alison Mitchell hosting on Sky.

The world feed intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp86-7bpkJ4 


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - RhysJR - 07-06-2023

Following the demise of London Irish yesterday, more potential bad news for English rugby, with BT Sport demanding "a multi-million pound rebate" from their contract following the Premiership of the league to 10 teams. TNT Sports' first year will be the last of the current contract.

https://twitter.com/MattHughesDM/status/1666482691380764687?s=20 


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - Brekkie - 07-06-2023

Rugby seems in a mess generally but considering BT show only 3 games per round arguably showing 3 out of 5 rather than 3 out of 6 is a better deal, though of course a couple less clubs mean a few thousand less dedicated fans - though with club rugby I imagine loyal fans are more likely to be in the stadium anyway.


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - RhysJR - 07-06-2023

Will be interesting to see if, in light of the news cycle of the last few days, if anything changes in the broadcasting perspectives of the Saudi Pro League or America's MLS.

Since January, one SPL match a week has been shown on Sky Sports' YouTube channel but it would be a very safe bet that the number of matches that are made available and the general broadcast product will be significantly ramped up sooner rather than later.

The MLS is tied up with Apple TV globally, but would there be case for Inter Miami matches at the very least to be sublet for a relatively significant fee to bigger sportscasters globally?

Completely change of course to the above,
Sky Sports Italia have suspended two of their F1 commentators following on-air sexist remarks during coverage of last weekend's grand prix.

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1666518009559523356?s=20 


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - MajesticBass - 07-06-2023

(07-06-2023, 06:04 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Rugby seems in a mess generally but considering BT show only 3 games per round arguably showing 3 out of 5 rather than 3 out of 6 is a better deal, though of course a couple less clubs mean a few thousand less dedicated fans - though with club rugby I imagine loyal fans are more likely to be in the stadium anyway.
It looks like this is to cover all three clubs collapsing, so the loss of six rounds of games is probably more significant


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - RhysJR - 07-06-2023

Watching Eurosport and BT Sport side by side tonight means that I can now repeat the 'Weekend of Champions' promos in my sleep. They certainly like advertising it.


RE: The Sport Thread - For stuff not worthy of a thread of its own - Medianext.MX - 07-06-2023

(07-06-2023, 02:51 PM)RhysJR Wrote:  In 2018, Discovery won the rights globally outside North America (and similar to their Olympics deal they would pick up the rights as previous deals would expire). In June last year, what is now WBD agreed a "multi-year agreement" for Sky to sublet the rights in the UK and Ireland to continue broadcasting all of the tour.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pga-tour-discovery-announce-dollar2-billion-global-netflix-style-media-deal 

In 2018, it appeared Discovery was going to go big on golf, launching the previously mentioned GOLFTV service and taking the European Tour and major rights in many territories. That ambition has seemed to have died, with deals like the one with Sky in the UK and the renogation of the agreement with the PGA Tour, handing the rights for "Asia, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and those areas in Europe and Latin America not covered by discovery+ and Eurosport" in January this year. This appears to be partly down to budget restarint post-merger and GOLFTV not being the success it was hoped to be.

https://www.si.com/golf/news/pga-tour-warner-bros-discovery-restructure-international-media-rights 
https://golf.com/news/inside-golftv-end-pga-tour-broadcast-hot-mic/ 

Something you forgot to mention is that Discovery (still as a standalone company) bought in 2019 (shortly after launching GOLFTV in Latin America) the local version of the Golf Channel (formally not owned by NBCUniversal directly, but the brand was licensed by a joint venture formed by New York-based Simple Networks LLC, created by former DIRECTV Latin America/Vrio executives Evan Grayer and Jason Markham, and Inversiones Bahía, a Argentinian-Brazilian conglomerate owned by the Motta family, and beforehand Torneos). Discovery (WBD) still licenses the brand from NBCU, and also takes the American Golf Channel feeds and some programming.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/discovery-acquires-golf-channel-latin-america 

Worth noting the PGA Tour rights there are not exclusive in Latin America, these are shared with ESPN/Star+, but Golf Channel generally airs the sessions in full, whilst ESPN only air selected portions (although it also airs some full sessions), as well as highlights.

(07-06-2023, 08:27 PM)RhysJR Wrote:  Will be interesting to see if, in light of the news cycle of the last few days, if anything changes in the broadcasting perspectives of the Saudi Pro League or America's MLS.

The MLS is tied up with Apple TV globally, but would there be case for Inter Miami matches at the very least to be sublet for a relatively significant fee to bigger sportscasters globally?

Not very likely. Speaking of which... Messi's proposed contract with Inter Miami also has a clause which stipulates he will get a cut of revenue from new subscribers to MLS Season Pass. His popularity might be eventually a factor to boost subscriber numbers for both the Season Pass and Apple TV+. He is also getting a documentary series from Tim Pastore, SMUGGLER Entertainment and PEGSA (an Argentinian indie studio focused on sports programming, currently producer of ESPN's Argentinian programming), which might also some eyeballs to it.

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1666529695335104512 
https://prosoccerwire.usatoday.com/2023/06/06/apple-tv-has-a-lionel-messi-documentary-series-in-the-works/ 

(07-06-2023, 08:27 PM)RhysJR Wrote:  Since January, one SPL match a week has been shown on Sky Sports' YouTube channel but it would be a very safe bet that the number of matches that are made available and the general broadcast product will be significantly ramped up sooner rather than later.

Well, since the SPL had that high-profile hiring last year, global coverage has ramped up quite: alongside Sky Sports, one match per week involving Al-Nassr has been broadcast (either online or on linear) by the likes of Sony Sports (India), Altice (France), Sport TV (Portugal), Paramount+ (Australia), StarTimes (Africa), TVB (Hong Kong), TrueVisions (Thailand), United Media (Balkans), América Móvil (Mexico and Central America) and DIRECTV (South America).

For a very small league like SPL, its coverage is very decently produced and quite professional, but still quite not in par with its European counterparts. International rights distribution is handled by IMG, and the domestic rights holder is Saudi Sports Company, a joint venture between the Ministry of Sport in Saudi Arabia, state broadcaster Saudi Broadcasting Authority and commercial pan-Arab satellite network MBC Group, which handles production and distribution of the network separately from the Dubai-based MBC networks.

https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/exclusive-img-to-distribute-saudi-pro-league-international-rights-following-ronaldo-arrival/ 
https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2023/01/23/ronaldo-factor-secures-european-rights-deals-for-saudi-pro-league/ 
https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/ssc-acquires-saudi-professional-league-rights-in-nine-figure-deal/