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(30-01-2023, 11:56 AM)harshy Wrote:  Yeah I hate these simulcasts why are world viewers getting Rishi Sunak mouthpiece about the NHS, the new merged channel will be useless.

This outlines why the new channel should either be an fully focussed international news channel, OR a fully focussed domestic UK news channel. Trying to do both will result in the fudge we have now during joint simulcasts that pleases no one.

During 2024 there will also be a General Election in the UK, and a Presidential election in the US, with the build up to the US election throughout the year with the primaries etc.
Convention says that the UK GE will be in May or June, but if Rushi Sunak wants to run down the clock on the current Parliamentary term, he could call the UK General Election in late autumn 2024, so we'll have the UK GE campaign and the US Presidential campaign happening concurrently. How on earth will this new channel manage to cover that and keep everyone happy???
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(30-01-2023, 12:41 AM)oscillon Wrote:  Yes, Sunday's Late Evening News has been in Studio B since the latter reopened in June last year. When the timing is appropriate, it also carries the 10 branding, although the bulletin is slightly shorter in size (25 min) than the normal Ten.
The Sunday late has officially been a 'Ten' since the change was made in 2000, as one of the BBC's rationales for moving the Nine was that you'd have the late bulletin on at the same time six days a week (which was also a dig at ITV's inconsistent news scheduling at the time). That said, it's only in the last few years that it has been gradually extended to be nearly as long as a full bulletin.
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Backing up to the departure of Joanna Gosling - did she ever host a main BBC1 bulletin? Can't say I recall her doing the One but guessing she may at least have done a weekend lunchtime bulletin, if not the weekend evening bulletins.

(30-01-2023, 12:29 AM)bbctvtechop Wrote:  
(30-01-2023, 12:15 AM)ginnyfan Wrote:  Clearly, I did not think only one person/presenter will do everything. I know a whole behind the scenes team is needed. I was just pointing out that the set/studio part is easily solved. They don't need a studio A,B,C or whatever the letter is, to be always ready and waiting,  they can do it from the newsroom which makes it easier for the stand by presenter as well since newsroom is their office.

So, answer the question. Are you expecting this ability 24/7/365?

I don't expect that to be the case. I guess they will try to cover the most important parts of the day, morning/afternoon, when most political news happpen. During their off hours, the channel itself will be ready to cover UK breaking news more, I assume.

(30-01-2023, 12:18 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Backing up to the departure of Joanna Gosling - did she ever host a main BBC1 bulletin?  Can't say I recall her doing the One but guessing she may at least have done a weekend lunchtime bulletin, if not the weekend evening bulletins.

Yes she did, was probably a weekend one (Martine Croxall and Annita McVeigh have done likewise).

(30-01-2023, 12:18 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Backing up to the departure of Joanna Gosling - did she ever host a main BBC1 bulletin?  Can't say I recall her doing the One but guessing she may at least have done a weekend lunchtime bulletin, if not the weekend evening bulletins.

She did do the One but literally only a handful of times from about 2019-2021. Weekend lunchtime bulletins she did plenty in the last couple of years. She was also a regular on the Saturday evening network bulletins between 2008 and 2012. I think she was a stand in on Breakfast too in the mid 2000s.
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(30-01-2023, 12:08 PM)Radio_man Wrote:  Convention says that the UK GE will be in May or June, but if Rushi Sunak wants to run down the clock on the current Parliamentary term, he could call the UK General Election in late autumn 2024, so we'll have the UK GE campaign and the US Presidential campaign happening concurrently. How on earth will this new channel manage to cover that and keep everyone happy???

By recognising that it doesn’t have to be all things to all men? I think it’s pretty understandable for a British channel to prioritise UK elections. Plenty of international channels to cover the US election in depth. 

Also, I’m kind of sick of saying this, but the news channel isn’t the only way of consuming BBC News. I’m sure they’ll have podcasts, sections of the website and app, special editions of Newsnight, decent coverage across many parts of their radio and tv output - if you want BBC coverage of either the UK or US elections, you’ll be able to find it.
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(30-01-2023, 03:00 PM)all new phil Wrote:  By recognising that it doesn’t have to be all things to all men? I think it’s pretty understandable for a British channel to prioritise UK elections. Plenty of international channels to cover the US election in depth.
It might be a British-based channel, but fundamentally it's an international, commercial channel whose profitability is dependent on its relevance to international audiences. It should not, on the international feed, prioritise UK elections beyond what would be appropriate. It would be absurd during South Asia evening peak to pull away from covering a story about e.g., a train crash in India to deliver live coverage of the Lib Dem manifesto launch or some campaign stop speech. From a commercial perspective, it'd make most sense to cover the US election over a UK election - the US is one of the channel's most profitable markets (and a growing one at that) and is an event of greater international interest anyway.

Of course, I expect that during a general election campaign, that is when we'll see greater levels of the UK opt outs from the channel. Plus, the more profitable the channel ultimately is, the more money can be reinvested into the domestic news operation (such as these kinds of opt outs).
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(30-01-2023, 03:39 PM)DTV Wrote:  
(30-01-2023, 03:00 PM)all new phil Wrote:  By recognising that it doesn’t have to be all things to all men? I think it’s pretty understandable for a British channel to prioritise UK elections. Plenty of international channels to cover the US election in depth.
It might be a British-based channel, but fundamentally it's an international, commercial channel whose profitability is dependent on its relevance to international audiences. It should not, on the international feed, prioritise UK elections beyond what would be appropriate. It would be absurd during South Asia evening peak to pull away from covering a story about e.g., a train crash in India to deliver live coverage of the Lib Dem manifesto launch or some campaign stop speech. From a commercial perspective, it'd make most sense to cover the US election over a UK election - the US is one of the channel's most profitable markets (and a growing one at that) and is an event of greater international interest anyway.

Of course, I expect that during a general election campaign, that is when we'll see greater levels of the UK opt outs from the channel. Plus, the more profitable the channel ultimately is, the more money can be reinvested into the domestic news operation (such as these kinds of opt outs).
Yes, that was my point. If the US and UK elections happen concurrently, from a commercial perspective, the US election should take priority for the international side of the channel. But then that won't please the people who think that the UK BBC News Channel should be a channel with "British news for a British audience", who would expect it to cover rolling events of the UK General Election.
That's what I meant by implying that during 2024 it will be difficult for the new channel to please everyone, as it's expected to be a big political year in the UK and the US.

New style map on the 10 tonight? I’m sure it used to be much more reds and blacks and used to zoom in on a spinning globe.

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