[m_in_m]

They could do with a longer script for it really. Martine and Ben both read it very slowly, and Maryam has a long pause at the end.

I know this isn't something that happens every day - or even every month! - but I'm starting to think it might be better if the regional previews were done before the bulletin. That way you'd eliminate the need for the whole 'and coming up in Sportsday [or whatever else] on the BBC News Channel,' which I've always found to be a little awkward, particularly if you're not watching on the News Channel! If the Beeb were clever they could even do away with the ident before - just have the regional presenter preview their programme and then say 'that's all coming up later, but now it's time for the BBC News at One/Six/Ten'.

I can't see this happening. The BBC have made the bulletins more connected almost than ever with the wall and many of not all regional/nation presenters name checking the national presenter. They are deliberately making them feel like a joined up bulletin.

[interestednovice]

The “coming up on the BBC News Channel” is also only seen on the NC itself and BBC One HD, in cases where it hasn’t been regionalised. It will also appear on BBC One Nightlight, I’m assuming, as that becomes the “new” generic region-less BBC One.

Once Freeview and iPlayer rollout of the HD regions is complete, it won’t be seen on BBC One aside from Nightlight (unless Nightlight takes the London feed without the regional headlines blanked, I’m not sure).

It was also always deliberately worded in such a way that if you weren’t watching on the NC, it didn’t matter. It was a coming up regarding that channel, filling a space, but also being no different to watching BBC One and being told that a programme is about to start on BBC Two.

It’s perhaps the odd case of where, because we are pres fans and know more about what is happening behind the scenes, the generic nature of it is more obvious to us than the average viewer. I doubt many people would find it odd at all.

[Jimbo2022]

BBC1 Nightlight is an SD simulcast of BBC1 HD with different red slate. But everything else is identical to BBC1 HD but in SD.

[oscillon]

The Sunday 10 for some reason back in E, not in its usual B.

Old non-Reithed 10 logo as well.


UPD. Also noticed a rarely used shot of the studio from behind the presenter, as business editor stood on the catwalk WBR-style.

[RhysJR]

A rare appearance for the Sunday 10PM bulletin to be from Studio E rather than B

[IanJRedman]

The Sunday 10 for some reason back in E, not in its usual B.

Old non-Reithed 10 logo as well.

Whenever they broadcast from somewhere other than B, you don't get the red and white 'wipes' between the headlines, either.

[chris]

I know this isn't something that happens every day - or even every month! - but I'm starting to think it might be better if the regional previews were done before the bulletin. That way you'd eliminate the need for the whole 'and coming up in Sportsday [or whatever else] on the BBC News Channel,' which I've always found to be a little awkward, particularly if you're not watching on the News Channel! If the Beeb were clever they could even do away with the ident before - just have the regional presenter preview their programme and then say 'that's all coming up later, but now it's time for the BBC News at One/Six/Ten'.

I can't see this happening. The BBC have made the bulletins more connected almost than ever with the wall and many of not all regional/nation presenters name checking the national presenter. They are deliberately making them feel like a joined up bulletin.

Wasn’t this how it happened before the “integrated” headlines on the 6?

[Rolling News]

I can't see this happening. The BBC have made the bulletins more connected almost than ever with the wall and many of not all regional/nation presenters name checking the national presenter. They are deliberately making them feel like a joined up bulletin.

Wasn’t this how it happened before the “integrated” headlines on the 6?

Yes, here is how It was done before the 1999 relaunch:

www.youtube.com 

[interestednovice]

BBC1 Nightlight is an SD simulcast of BBC1 HD with different red slate. But everything else is identical to BBC1 HD but in SD.

I know that’s the general setup of Nightlight but I wasn’t sure how they dealt with news “inserts” such as during the headline sequence, not having seen it myself.

Previously, a lot of effort went in to making BBC One HD truly region-agnostic, from rotating regional Sunday politics shows, to BBC News Channel filler covering regional headlines. Given wider changes to news, such as the News Channel no longer featuring all BBC One bulletins due to it’s merger with BBC World News, meaning the filler is often “not required” for the NC audience, and a return as a result to BBC London being the default “network” feed, I didn’t know how much they were continuing with the “effort” required to make it a proper service. Also, partly the whole idea is that Nighlight viewers do miss some content to “push” them into upgrading ahead of the SD switch-off. It’s not the same as the previous HD situation where it’s supposed to be the superior service and as close a replacement as possible. Additionally, the changes haven’t affected Freeview or iPlayer, so there is a fallback option for most viewers.

I suppose Studio B’s gallery can simply play out the recorded NC announcement as filler which will then been seen on Nightlight and also any region that fails to opt due to technical issues. BBC London’s bulletin is then the “official” network one but covered by the red screen.

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UPD. Also noticed a rarely used shot of the studio from behind the presenter, as business editor stood on the catwalk WBR-style.

B must have had issues!

They used the use this shot much more frequently on the NC. Back when they had dual presentation, one presenter would sometimes hand over to the other with use of this shot and, as you mentioned, it was sometimes used for passing back and forth for business updates (which were much more frequent on the NC back in the day too).

A shot you very rarely see now, but was used for the Papers in E quite frequently, is the “snoop cam” directly down on to the desk from above!

[ALV]

Can someone currently from Studio E/C wake up (whichever gallery that is supposed to take NC output during Sportsday)... Y'all forgot to switch NC's TX on the network router and the NC is currently taking Studio B's feed and BBC London News with the NC bug:



Poor Sportsday presenter and the Salford team who is probably currently presenting to no one watching...

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EDIT: They just crashed out of London and Sportsday is on, no apology or acknowledgement whatsoever: