[Humphrey Hacker]

Can I ask a pertinent question?

What was the reasoning of not bringing a "Mock Designs / The Gallery" board into this place? As it would have kept stuff like what has occurred in the BBC News thread into one dedicated board.

Sorry to be a pain and ask.

From a non-mod perspective I think the omission of "mocks/"galleries" was because of two reasons:

1. The shockingly poor quality of the vast majority of the mocks.
2. The (from my perspective) nasty and vitriolic attacks that many "mockers" received.

You're not a pain.

[Neil Jones]

Yeah this comes up regularly:
pres.cafe 

The reason for not having a Mock/Gallery section was never explained. And as alluded to, the mods/site owners do not need to justify it. If they don't want one that's their decision.

[Brekkie]

It's fair to say the mock quality dropped off over the last couple of years. You had a couple of very good people like PATV and mdta then endless poor GMB recreations.

I think that's a fair enough call not to have a dedicated forum but also do think if they're illustrating a point valid to the discussion there shouldn't be a blanket ban, although concede Moz's mock was a new design rather than fixing the current design.

[Humphrey Hacker]

It's fair to say the mock quality dropped off over the last couple of years.  You had a couple of very good people like PATV and mdta then endless poor GMB recreations.

I think that's a fair enough call not to have a dedicated forum but also do think if they're illustrating a point valid to the discussion there shouldn't be a blanket ban, although concede Moz's mock was a new design rather than fixing the current design.

It's an awkward situation. If you're going to have a blanket ban then it has to be total. I'm sure Moz wasn't trying to circumvent any rules.

For the record there are sites where you can view mocks such as Deviant Art.

[Cappuccino]

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[Cappuccino]

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[Blubatt]

Given how the Huw Edwards thread devolved into a mess of genuine well wishers, speculative comments, diatribes on social media, and some presentation stuff, will the Pres Cafe team consider a blanket ban on discussing presenter scandals? I understand that they affect presentation, but when its about someone's dirty laundry being put out by the tabloids, and it involving very real, very heavy mental health implications, should we not just avoid those topics?

[Keith]

Given how the Huw Edwards thread devolved into a mess of genuine well wishers, speculative comments, diatribes on social media, and some presentation stuff, will the Pres Cafe team consider a blanket ban on discussing presenter scandals? I understand that they affect presentation, but when its about someone's dirty laundry being put out by the tabloids, and it involving very real, very heavy mental health implications, should we not just avoid those topics?

To be honest I think with this and Schofield the admin/mods just about got the balance right. Those two individuals are highly associated with programmes, and not talking about it at all would be a massive elephant in the room. Not allowing wild speculation and discussing of their private lives is right though.

[Blubatt]

You can't ignore it, but I don't think the mods should allow threads just about scandals. Have it in the associated threads for the programmes affiliated with those people.

[Humphrey Hacker]

You can't ignore it, but I don't think the mods should allow threads just about scandals. Have it in the associated threads for the programmes affiliated with those people.

The problem is that a story like this cannot be roped around a small and specific set of areas. The thread that was closed did inevitably cover a wide variety of views and while many of the posts were indeed unsuitable given the delicate nature of the background they were given in a state of openness.

To attempt to slap a ban on scandals would be wrong ethically and would smack of censorship. I can't see how putting future threads in associated threads would make any difference except making them into mega-threads which would do no-one any good.