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Here's me now down a Wikipedia rabbit hole of political colours around the world.
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That graph is crazy. Party colours are largely arbitory, except for the party that shares it's name with a colour. So who at PA thought to make Green blue?

It's still not the worst graph in the election, there were a couple of items the other week about incorrect or misleading graphs in campaign material
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A brief showcase of the BBC's VR graphics which I think backs up the comments here about it largely being redundant.

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The swingometer could have been reworked for the curved screen and the Downing Street paths weren't really useful information but probably could have been done with the green screen in the studio. The touchscreen could have been used for maps.

That said though production wise obvious advantages to having elements come from outside the main studio to give the talent on the studio floor a few minutes off air.

(09-07-2024, 06:33 PM)mark Wrote:  That was fascinating to watch - thanks for sharing. I had no idea that the three main US broadcasters didn't all use red and blue in the same way until 1996.

I knew British broadcasters flipped the colours to bring them in line with the UK parties, but I'd assumed Republicans had always been red and Democrats had always been blue in the US.
I don't think that UK political parties previously necessarily had defined colours. I looked at this because I was intrigued by the drama 'A Very British Scandal' made in 2018 about Jeremy Thorpe.

It showed him wearing a white/green rosette in 1976, which are not colours you would've associated with the old Liberal Party. Perhaps candidates just used their own preference at the time.

I guess broadcasters would choose red for Labour as their conference anthem is about a 'red flag', but the current Conservative logo was originally a green tree, then replaced by one containing a Union Flag within it, which is a mixture of red/white/blue.

Broadcasters have to pick a colour to make the graphics easier when displaying results. They choose grey for independent, which doesn't look very appealing on screen. Confused

I will stick up for Sky's coverage

I thought the studio looked really nice with an immersive 360 degree of action which we have never had before.

Whilst I liked the set they used in 2019 at the end of the day it was just a giant desk in the middle of lobby next to a staircase. Ed Conway got to play with some AR/VR toys on the ground floor. The AR/VR panels on the wide shot with the party leaders was nice and of course the sweeping through sky central for the exit poll was stunning with great dramatic music

They made great use of this years studio. People say they felt like they were away from the action but they were literally "based" in Downing Street - The big prize of the night. The desk may have been off to the side but that was the only way it could be done to still show Downing Street at the same time whilst allowing the big screen and map in the center.

I thought their use of the 5 panels at the other side of the set was really well done too showing a constituency result on each 1 and if they didn't have enough they used an image of the party leader such as Nigel Farage when they only had 4 seats at the time. It was also the ideal set up to show the 4 main parties and in the middle a state of the parties screen bringing all the results together

I also liked how the panels were used to show the defence of each party and what change in vote would be needed to lose that seat or on the flip side what percentage would be needed to gain a seat from another party

The exit poll announcement was no where near as good as in 2019. The music did not have the same drama as last time and the sequence was a lot less spectacular until the reveal but I don't agree that Kay Burley made a mess of it. She said in the minutes up to 10pm that she was told there was a piece of paper with the result of the exit poll but she wanted to find out at the same time as the rest of us and how excited she was by not knowing the result & therefore we got a genuine shock reaction when the result was announced. Not often we see her lost for words and maybe it was a bit unprofessional but it was a real and raw reaction

People have said that Beth Rigby seemed uninterested but she said herself how excited she was and even before becoming a political correspondent she would stay up all night watching the results coming in. I guess she was just tired from a 6 week campaign and nervous as she has to react instantly to the exit poll result

I wasen't keen on the block background but most of the time we saw people busy counting away at over 100 locations although I did spot some duplication of the same shot as multiple counts were coming from 1 place

I agree that the virtual Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer looked freaky but I did like that they blinked and followed us round as the camera panned. Larry did look pretty awful close up but fine from a distance

I was surprised how little coverage they gave to Grimsby & Cleethorpes their so called target towns. They have spent months there doing special reports, hosting 2 debate programmes and Sarah Jane Mee was at the count but we never actually saw the result or got any reaction to it on the night.

Speaking of which 1 thing that did annoy me was from the moment Labour had got to the magical number of 326 seats I never saw another result come in on the vidiprinter / lower third for the remainder of the broadcast. I think they should have shown the new result coming in and then flashed back up that Labour had won but instead it remained on screen throughout only changing to show a 4-6 word quote from a guest being interviewed

There were times where multiple people were talking over each other and I found Andy Burnham the worst for that but felt Ruth Davidson had a lot of knowledge and Andy was a good panellist

Trevor Phillips seemed to be loving it during the whole night. I noticed everyone else missing from time to time but he seemed to barely move from his seat all night long, was engaged in Ed Conway and his charts and graphics + joined in the questioning every now and then with guests

Ed Conway always seems to get so excited when he can show us all his chats, historic data going as far back as 200 years and playing with the graphics. it looks a lot of fun. They also made good use of the map on the floor with location popping up in a pin with a picture of the winning / losing candidate (if a significant figure in recent politics) which tracked as the camera moved from side to side

Sophy Ridge was great. You really feel her come alive with excitement during events like this and it was nice to have Adam Boulton back. Elections just don't feel the same without him there, Speaking of which we did not have Professor Michael Thrasher this year analysing the results which also felt odd after him being there for as long as I've watched Sky News general election coverage

At times it was a little chaotic but with up to 6 people talking, countless guests being interviewed, 650 results being declared, certain candidates taking ages to come on to the stage and a few shock losses through the night they did pretty well and they did say on the promo they would be having some fun too. I felt they were all enjoying it throughout

Overall I enjoyed their coverage watching solidly from 9pm until 4pm then I needed to crash before joining Anna Botting at 10pm - midnight
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(10-07-2024, 12:12 AM)Stuart Wrote:  I don't think that UK political parties previously necessarily had defined colours. I looked at this because I was intrigued by the drama 'A Very British Scandal' made in 2018 about Jeremy Thorpe.

It showed him wearing a white/green rosette in 1976, which are not colours you would've associated with the old Liberal Party. Perhaps candidates just used their own preference at the time.
Blue for the Conservatives goes back to their predecessors the Tory Party. Their rivals, The Whigs used a buff colour to identify themselves

Labour has always been red, as are many similar parties as red is the traditional colour of socialism, the red flag symbol goes back to the French Revolution.

Not sure about Thorpe's rosette, the actual photos from the time are black and white, but it's not a single colour rosette. The Liberals were associated with yellow from the 1920s and the current colour was in use in the 80s. The SDP were red white and blue and when they merged with the Liberal Party the dark yellow colour won
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(10-07-2024, 07:00 AM)Stooky Bill Wrote:  Blue for the Conservatives goes back to their predecessors the Tory Party. Their rivals, The Whigs used a buff colour to identify themselves

Labour has always been red, as are many similar parties as red is the traditional colour of socialism, the red flag symbol goes back to the French Revolution.

Not sure about Thorpe's rosette, the actual photos from the time are black and white, but it's not a single colour rosette. The Liberals were associated with yellow from the 1920s and the current colour was in use in the 80s. The SDP were red white and blue and when they merged with the Liberal Party the dark yellow colour won

According to Wikipedia, some candidates used non-standard colours - this changed with the widespread adoption of colour television. Thorpe would have been during that time.

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"When political parties emerged in the UK, they used different colours in different areas. This may have been for a variety of reasons, such as association of colours with leading families of the area and then the political parties they supported. In some areas, non-standard colours were worn up to around the 1970s as a local tradition. Major political parties have now standardised on the colours used nationally, a trend accelerated by the arrival of colour television."
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At least this time there was nothing like this...

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(10-07-2024, 12:22 PM)James2001 Wrote:  At least this time there was nothing like this...

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PS2 Election coverage. Very Nice Big Grin

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