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RE: ITN Nostalgia - Bluecortina - 18-04-2024

(16-04-2024, 07:46 PM)James2001 Wrote:  That telecine machine looks archaic, pretty much a projector aimed at a camera! I know that's in essence what a telecine is anyway, but that one really does look almost ramshackle, with the path between camera and projector open to air.

The machine you're referring to was known as a 'camera telecine'. In essence it is as you describe - a film projector pointing down the throat of the camera optics. The one in the film looks like a Marconi model.

The advantage of a camera telecine over a flying spot telecine was that it could handle very variable film stock. A large TV news operation would receive film from around the world shot to very variable technical standards as you might imagine. If the received film was was too dark or dense then you could simply turn up the brightness of the projection lamp to try and 'force' more light through the film. The camera would have the usual iris control but also a set of neutral density filters in the optical path to further try and control the light path. In this way they were much more suited to news use than flying spot telecine machines which gave quality over practical exposure problems. In fact when ITN were tasked to make a documentary of some sort for ITV and they required higher quality pictures they would decamp with their film to a local Itv station equipped with flying spot telecines as they gave a higher quality output. BBC News used camera telecines too so nothing at all unusual about them. They also had the advantage of being instant start and stop.


(PS. Standard interview question - What are the various pros and cons of camera v flying spot telecines, that's why I remember)


RE: ITN Nostalgia - James2001 - 19-04-2024

I wonder if that's why the News at Ten titles seem to being played off video, a transfer made on a higher quality telecine elsewhere?


RE: ITN Nostalgia - JLav25 - 12-05-2024

Meant to post this a few weeks back but forgot. Some ITN 90's clips in the background graphics of the Kaiser Chief's gig at Troxy a few weekends back.


RE: ITN Nostalgia - nwtv2003 - 28-05-2024

An audio oddity has turned on YouTube, with voice introductions to News at Ten from 1992 (probably its relaunch), however the theme is a slight variant on the Early Evening News theme, possibly giving potential they were going ditch the NaT at that time.

https://youtu.be/8n3SascxAUE?si=CbV2o3MiXuttIgsB 


RE: ITN Nostalgia - Skygeek - 28-05-2024

(Yesterday, 11:58 AM)nwtv2003 Wrote:  An audio oddity has turned on YouTube, with voice introductions to News at Ten from 1992 (probably its relaunch), however the theme is a slight variant on the Early Evening News theme, possibly giving potential they were going ditch the NaT at that time.

I think it's essentially a mock. A rarely/never-used cut that's turned up somewhere online, mashed up with the raw voiceover clips from the recording sessions with the announcer whose name escapes me but of whom there exists a reel (posted several times on this site's predecessors) of him name-checking everyone who ever has - or even might (Jon Snow) - end up in the NaT presenter's chair.

Someone has taken this, put two and two together and come up with Sir Trev doing the Can-Can during the opening titles.

Not that I wouldn't watch that. Big Grin


RE: ITN Nostalgia - lookoutwales - 28-05-2024

I'm fairly sure that 'lite' version of the Early Evening theme ended up being used on air at Euronews in its early years (at least in some capacity)

(Yesterday, 12:23 PM)Skygeek Wrote:  I think it's essentially a mock. A rarely/never-used cut that's turned up somewhere online, mashed up with the raw voiceover clips from the recording sessions with the announcer whose name escapes me but of whom there exists a reel (posted several times on this site's predecessors) of him name-checking everyone who ever has - or even might (Jon Snow) - end up in the NaT presenter's chair.

Sounds very much like a mock to me, as well.

The announcer in question being the late Andrew Burt, of course.


RE: ITN Nostalgia - Rdd - 28-05-2024

Surely a mock.

However yes, the Early Evening News theme was used by Euronews for its close down sequence, before it went 24 hours. (Yes a news channel that wasn’t 24 hours!).

It came with an animation of all their old logos up to that point to boot!