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RE: Newsnight - DTV - 06-11-2023
The first ever edition of Newsnight Northern Ireland can be seen in full at TV Room:
https://rewind.thetvroom.com/41991/programmes/newsnight-northern-ireland-first-edition-4th-october-1999/
Of course, Jeremy Paxman did not agree with the introduction of the national opt-outs and, ever the consummate professional, would deliberately try and mess up the opt points.
Also slightly intrigued by the launch date being 4th October, which was also the launch of the cream and red look in the three nations (and Newsroom South East). BBC News certainly wouldn't have the confidence to do so many first times in one day these days.
RE: Newsnight - lookoutwales - 07-11-2023
(06-11-2023, 10:43 PM)DTV Wrote: Yes, national opt-outs for all three nations were launched in October 1999, opting out at the TOTH news summary that Newsnight then did. Not sure whether the Scottish opt originally had the same format and was only extended to the full 20 minutes later, but the Welsh and Northern Irish opts were only around 7 minutes and usually only contained a news summary and a single item before opting back in to the main programme.
Newsnight Scotland launched as a 20-minute programme on Monday - Thursdays, but also ran a seven-minute version more akin to the Wales and NI opts on Fridays for a while before that was dropped (there was an example of the Friday edition with John Milne, but can't seem to find it)
From a Welsh point-of-view, it felt like BBC Wales were trying and struggling with no end of numerous formats for late news in the space of a few years, especially with digital TV getting underway.
- Wales at Eleven - way too short to offer any in-depth coverage beyond one story
- Choice News at Ten - probably reaching a minuscule audience at best, latterly replaced by...
- 2W News and Sport - concise 15-minute effort at 9pm, but axed in favour of...
- Wales Today on 2W - usually scheduled too close to the 10pm news on BBC1 to work, heavily weighted in favour of more sports news
On top of that - and Wales Today being extended upon the Nine's move to Ten - BBC1's duty announcer-director still read (OOV) a 'closedown' news summary before handing over to News 24 overnight as late as 2002 (something the other Nations had long dropped)
RE: Newsnight - Omnipresent - 07-11-2023
Jeremy Paxman was famously vocal about the regional Newsnight opt outs branding it a “damn fool idea”.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2000/jun/25/bbc.uknews
It was a sign of the BBC reflecting the political culture of the time with the nations having their own editions of The Evening Session on Radio 1 on a Thursday night.
RE: Newsnight - Matrix - 07-11-2023
(07-11-2023, 09:02 PM)Omnipresent Wrote: Jeremy Paxman was famously vocal about the regional Newsnight opt outs branding it a “damn fool idea”.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2000/jun/25/bbc.uknews
It was a sign of the BBC reflecting the political culture of the time with the nations having their own editions of The Evening Session on Radio 1 on a Thursday night.
As yet, in many ways, it's been the direction of travel for many a year after Paxman's departure.
I don't think it's ever a bad thing for people to feel more connected to their BBC. That said, there are economies of scale and frankly, all bar Newsnight Scotland there just wasn't an appetite to create regional versions of the programme at the pace/scale.
Where that changes in the future is a different story but, unlike Paxman, I don't think it was a foolish idea.
RE: Newsnight - interestednovice - 07-11-2023
In principle, it’s a nice idea.
But in reality, I wonder whether it would work. Newsnight, although well-respected and sometimes headline-making, gets a relatively small audience. To then dilute that audience further with regional editions starts to become unviable in the context of lots of cuts and everything needing to be seen to be value for money.
RE: Newsnight - Brekkie - 07-11-2023
Worth remembering those nations opts came in as devolved administrations were introduced too. In theory they made sense to give the nations a slot, and in practice in Wales and NI you only missed a news summary and I think weather forecast as we got the last part on a slight delay.
RE: Newsnight - Stuart - 11-11-2023
Does nobody ever think to warn Kirsty Wark that she's about to appear live on the big screen in B before her own programme begins?
RE: Newsnight - m_in_m - 11-11-2023
(11-11-2023, 09:12 AM)Stuart Wrote: Does nobody ever think to warn Kirsty Wark that she's about to appear live on the big screen in B before her own programme begins?
The Newsnight team are probably too busy getting ready to go live to be monitoring the output of studio B to no when they might put them in vision.
RE: Newsnight - Omnipresent - 08-12-2023
The Newsnight whiteboard is back tonight, positioned in front of a considerably more expensive screen.
RE: Newsnight - Omnipresent - 19-01-2024
Tonight's edition of Newsnight is from Glasgow. This time they're using the atrium rather than a makeshift area of the canteen.