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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - Andrew - 01-03-2023

Sets were probably much more straight forward, a desk and a solid backdrop with some lights shining on it, and a plasma wheeled in front. No fancy screens.

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - all new phil - 01-03-2023

(01-03-2023, 09:58 PM)Andrew Wrote:  Sets were probably much more straight forward, a desk and a solid backdrop with some lights shining on it, and a plasma wheeled in front. No fancy screens.

Absolutely this. It’s not just a case of wheeling in some screens as well - multiple screens will often require new or upgraded electrical installations, which then requires additional safety testing. There is then no doubt a need for configuring any networking, which can take time to set up. These alone would not have been required probably 15+ years ago, or at least if they were it was to a significantly lesser extent.

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - DTV - 01-03-2023

(01-03-2023, 09:58 PM)Andrew Wrote:  Sets were probably much more straight forward, a desk and a solid backdrop with some lights shining on it, and a plasma wheeled in front. No fancy screens.

Well that is pretty much the crux of the matter. Historically, most set elements were constructed out-of-studio and merely brought in and plonked where they needed to go - the only other thing to be done was correctly place and keystone any rear projectors and sort the lighting out.

These days, screens have to be installed and calibrated (which often requires frames to be built in studio), LED lighting strips have to be organised correctly, etc. - there's just so much more to do. Plus, any new tech requires a bit of training and piloting is increasingly standard for new sets, which it wasn't so much previously, or certainly not as rigorous.

But that is the central trajectory of news sets in the last twenty years - they've become vastly more technical, which makes them more expensive, harder and more time-consuming to install and consequently means they are expected to last much longer. I mean, the cream-and-red sets were installed in a weekend, N6's Barco set took two weeks to install and the most recent national set took about eight months!

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - harshy - 01-03-2023

I think Leeds just needs new cameras and an up to date newsroom background the one in use you can see the 2012 bbc look north titles on the screens.

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - Andrew - 01-03-2023

(01-03-2023, 10:16 PM)all new phil Wrote:  

(01-03-2023, 09:58 PM)Andrew Wrote:  Sets were probably much more straight forward, a desk and a solid backdrop with some lights shining on it, and a plasma wheeled in front. No fancy screens.

Absolutely this. It’s not just a case of wheeling in some screens as well - multiple screens will often require new or upgraded electrical installations, which then requires additional safety testing. There is then no doubt a need for configuring any networking, which can take time to set up. These alone would not have been required probably 15+ years ago, or at least if they were it was to a significantly lesser extent.

The first corporate set was basically just some cream panels, a desk, some sort of screen for the window view, and a green screen bit for the weather.

The last pre-corporate set, however impressive it looked, was just a massive desk and a lit background, was it even a set or just some lit back cloth I can’t remember

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - Stuart - 02-03-2023

(01-03-2023, 08:23 PM)DTV Wrote:  

(01-03-2023, 07:24 PM)radio listener Wrote:  When studios were replaced in the past wasn't the 'boast' made that it was all done in a weekend?  With them even finishing a show on a Friday evening with engineers coming into shot dismantling the set?

I don't recall them dismantling a set on air, but 'over the weekend' was certainly the standard for news set replacement until the mid-2000s. It was certainly common for the following Monday's evening edition to include timelapses of the old set being dismantled and new one being installed.

Striking a plywood set and installing a new one is certainly very different to some of the current upgrades.

When BBC Plymouth decided to stay in their current location rather than move to Sutton Quay in the city centre, the 'temporary set' in the conference room ended up lasting for 18 months.  They obviously encountered unexpected issues back in 2015.

They upgraded the main studio and gallery, then installed a set suitable for their new HD broadcast capability. They also refurbished the whole building infrastructure which had presumably been allowed to deteriorate in the expectation of the relocation.

Many of the current regional changes also require much more than just swapping a set and popping some shiney new kit in the gallery.

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harshy - harshy - 04-03-2023

(02-03-2023, 12:21 PM)IStuart Wrote:  

(01-03-2023, 08:23 PM)DTV Wrote:  I don't recall them dismantling a set on air, but 'over the weekend' was certainly the standard for news set replacement until the mid-2000s. It was certainly common for the following Monday's evening edition to include timelapses of the old set being dismantled and new one being installed.

Striking a plywood set and installing a new one is certainly very different to some of the current upgrades.

When BBC Plymouth decided to stay in their current location rather than move to Sutton Quay in the city centre, the 'temporary set' in the conference room ended up lasting for 18 months.  They obviously encountered unexpected issues back in 2015.

They upgraded the main studio and gallery, then installed a set suitable for their new HD broadcast capability. They also refurbished the whole building infrastructure which had presumably been allowed to deteriorate in the expectation of the relocation.

Many of the current regional changes also require much more than just swapping a set and popping some shiney new kit in the gallery.

Not sure what Leeds needs it needs something it dosent look great in upscaled HD, a new lighting grid maybe something just isn’t right.

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - Andrew - 04-03-2023

New weather presenter Victoria Lacey’s first shift on the ITV northern weekend weather shift tonight

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - Former Member 406 - 05-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 11:36 PM)Andrew Wrote:  ITV northern weekend

This phrase made me think of ABC Television (1956-68)!

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RE: BBC/ITV Yorkshire News - Spencer - 05-03-2023

(04-03-2023, 11:36 PM)Andrew Wrote:  New weather presenter Victoria Lacey’s first shift on the ITV northern weekend weather shift tonight

Could she have taken on Kerrie’s old role? Given Kerrie replaced Jon Mitchell as senior forecaster in Leeds, I’ve been wondering for a while if they were going to appoint a new deputy.

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