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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - octothorpe - 04-12-2022
Reminds me of that one afternoon at Tyne Tees: https://www.tvwhirl.co.uk/misc/mistakes/?clip=7312
And here's another couple of Tyne Tees cock-ups for good measure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAJ_vSDnbFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFzKneTSw8
A semi-vintage one here, with Katie Price's return to IAC as calamitous as this broadcast of one of her many trials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95Xh_P8ohI
Interesting STV's timings are off here too, as with the cock-up the channel had with IAC's ad breaks this series, as discussed on page 12.
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Bennyboy84 - 04-12-2022
(04-12-2022, 04:30 PM)octothorpe Wrote: Reminds me of that one afternoon at Tyne Tees: https://www.tvwhirl.co.uk/misc/mistakes/?clip=7312
Those must have been some really bad weather conditions to cause that. Probably the most picture jumping I've ever seen!
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - bradnak - 05-12-2022
(04-12-2022, 04:30 PM)octothorpe Wrote: A semi-vintage one here, with Katie Price's return to IAC as calamitous as this broadcast of one of her many trials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95Xh_P8ohI
Interesting STV's timings are off here too, as with the cock-up the channel had with IAC's ad breaks this series, as discussed on page 12.
As Ant & Dec were aware of the problems, it seems that this was a fault with playout from the Australian facility, before it got to ITV via satellite. As far as I'm aware, the Australian version of IAC plays out pre-recorded segments over the satellite from South Africa too. (I live in Australia and watch our version all the time)
As to why STV's timings were out, I suspect they were relaying the program via a feed from ITV and didn't notice the error until ITV put up their holding screen.
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Neil Jones - 05-12-2022
(04-12-2022, 10:21 PM)Bennyboy84 Wrote:(04-12-2022, 04:30 PM)octothorpe Wrote: Reminds me of that one afternoon at Tyne Tees: https://www.tvwhirl.co.uk/misc/mistakes/?clip=7312
Those must have been some really bad weather conditions to cause that. Probably the most picture jumping I've ever seen!
Pretty sure the culprit for things like that is fog, although the transmission date for that is June 2001, and fog, while not entirely unheard of in the height of summer, is unlikely in that scenario. However it doesn't mean the weather was "bad", it was probably fine and the issue was in the air as it were.
We'll probably never know but analogue TV was susceptible to interference from goings on in the atmosphere which ultimately sent the signals further than intended, as I remember I could sometimes "see" another transmission interrupting Central as they shared the same UHF frequency and so you had this on-screen interference/battle for who was going to win (as Central was closer and coming from Sutton Coldfield as opposed to wherever the other transmission had come from, it was obvious who would win out).
Same effect you can hear on Medium Wave and Long Wave radio after dark - find all kinds of foreign stations you can't pick up in the daytime, quite often come through clear as crystal. Remember picking up I think it was a French station or maybe Belgium - the music was good, but couldn't understand a damn word the presenter was saying.
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Bluecortina - 05-12-2022
(05-12-2022, 01:38 AM)bradnak Wrote:(04-12-2022, 04:30 PM)octothorpe Wrote: A semi-vintage one here, with Katie Price's return to IAC as calamitous as this broadcast of one of her many trials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95Xh_P8ohI
Interesting STV's timings are off here too, as with the cock-up the channel had with IAC's ad breaks this series, as discussed on page 12.
As Ant & Dec were aware of the problems, it seems that this was a fault with playout from the Australian facility, before it got to ITV via satellite. As far as I'm aware, the Australian version of IAC plays out pre-recorded segments over the satellite from South Africa too. (I live in Australia and watch our version all the time)
As to why STV's timings were out, I suspect they were relaying the program via a feed from ITV and didn't notice the error until ITV put up their holding screen.
When I was peripherally involved in the UK programme it comes into the UK as a complete package (via numerous routes around the world for obvious reasons), and we sent back a UK off-air feed to the production for 'confidence' reasons.
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - ASnep - 05-12-2022
(01-12-2022, 04:32 PM)Bennyboy84 Wrote: https://youtu.be/q7hM3VJbTKA
This must have been a hell of a night for broadcasters who had to deal with this!
Here is how some of that looked on ZDF in Germany. Like mentioned in the BBC HD video they hijacked the signal from Swiss TV, which you can see at 5:59 and 6:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFaHYjLATAM
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Stooky Bill - 05-12-2022
(05-12-2022, 01:38 AM)bradnak Wrote: As Ant & Dec were aware of the problems, it seems that this was a fault with playout from the Australian facility, before it got to ITV via satellite. As far as I'm aware, the Australian version of IAC plays out pre-recorded segments over the satellite from South Africa too. (I live in Australia and watch our version all the time)Not necessarily, ITV would have told the gallery in Australia if they'd fallen off air (assuming the fault hadn't taken out the talkback too) and they'd have told Ant & Dec to reference it
(05-12-2022, 07:40 PM)ASnep Wrote:(01-12-2022, 04:32 PM)Bennyboy84 Wrote: https://youtu.be/q7hM3VJbTKA
This must have been a hell of a night for broadcasters who had to deal with this!
Here is how some of that looked on ZDF in Germany. Like mentioned in the BBC HD video they hijacked the signal from Swiss TV, which you can see at 5:59 and 6:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFaHYjLATAM
I seem to remember that Al Jazeera Sports (now BeIN) also managed to keep the match, I can't remember how (or if anyone ever found out how!)
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - ASnep - 05-12-2022
(05-12-2022, 08:46 PM)Stooky Bil Wrote: I seem to remember that Al Jazeera Sports (now BeIN) also managed to keep the match, I can't remember how (or if anyone ever found out how!)
Yes, that is also mentioned in the video Bennyboy84 posted. Apparently AlJazeera were relying on ITV for English speaking coverage (even for matches that ITV didn't cover), which is why they took the feed from ITV and not directly from UEFA.
ITV for some reason took the feed from the Eurovision Network, who presumebly got a clean feed from SRF (since SRF is a EBU memeber). But that beggs the question why other EBU memebers showing the match (like the BBC or ZDF) didn't take the EBU feed, with ZDF even resorting to what's basically piracy?
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Steve in Pudsey - 06-12-2022
Wasn't there some irony that the feed ITV were getting (for the purposes of putting together the highlights) was getting to them via the BBC's CAR at TV Centre, but this wasn't being fed to BBC One pres at Red Bee as a backup source?
RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - chaose - 06-12-2022
ASnep Wrote: But that beggs the question why other EBU memebers showing the match (like the BBC or ZDF) didn't take the EBU feed, with ZDF even resorting to what's basically piracy?
I guess the EBU feed had to be pre-booked so it wasn't available to most broadcasters at short notice.
Also, I don't think what ZDF did qualifies as piracy. They owned the rights to the pictures - which were the same. SRF and ZDF traditionally have a close working relationship anyways, that's why the SRF programme feed was readily available at their MCR. Normally the swiss signals cannot be received in Germany.