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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Neil Jones - 24-06-2023

Well if that was today, ITV were showing some racing so that was probably to cover up some Bet365 type advert (the ones with live odds on them) or other time sensitive output.

But that's not a new thing on ITV1+1 and its almost certainly not a fault. Back in the days when they aired Quiz TV overnight the whole timeshift channel went bye bye.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Blubatt - 24-06-2023

(22-06-2023, 07:34 PM)James2001 Wrote:  Tricky was made by the same company as The Chart Show (which is why the animation was reused on Pop years later), which of course followed it.

Though The Chart Show was networked by Yorkshire rather than Granada.

Some say that these days, Tricky has a successful career as an after dinner speaker for children's parties. A most lucrative and niche market.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Stooky Bill - 24-06-2023

(24-06-2023, 06:48 PM)Blubatt Wrote:  Some say that these days, Tricky has a successful career as an after dinner speaker for children's parties. A most lucrative and niche market.

Not a bad career path after being a pioneer of trip-hop  

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - thegeek - 24-06-2023

Speaking of interesting career trajectories, one of the OB Unit Managers on that episode of Tricky was Richard Yeowart, who went on to run Arena OBs - until he got the company into a bit of a tricky situation.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Technologist - 24-06-2023

And he disappears without trace ….
https://pres.cafe/showthread.php?tid=473&pid=34200#pid34200 

they have only found about £1.2M of the £280 Million outstanding!

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - James2001 - 24-06-2023

Maybe Tricky's providing him with shelter :p

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Si-Co - 01-07-2023

Here’s a Granada startup from July 1983, with a minor cockup and colour bars appearing from somewhere.

https://youtu.be/URmZxuGaQks 
Credit: tv68 - YouTube

However, this seems to raise a few questions. The ads at the start appear to be coming from Granada, but they are then followed by TVam’s end-caption, quickly cutting to colour bars labelled “BAT3” which fade and Granada then appears to start up.

If the video is genuine (not compilation of more than one recording) then I’m not sure why we see Granada ads at the start - before startup and before TVam appears to close. I don’t think there were any local inserts into TVam in that era (and even later, they wouldn’t have been this kind of hyper-local ad). Perhaps the TVam caption is the anomaly here, and Granada cut (back?) to it in error? It still seems unusual to start the day with commercials though.

Any theories or explanations? Who was BAT3?

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Neil Jones - 01-07-2023

As the sync goes crazy after the eggcup (exaggerated of course on video recordings) suggests at that point it had gone 9:25 and that's what Granada had left on the output, and that before the eggcups is TV-am output?

Would be my best guess.

TV-am did have IIRC regional adverts/inserts from the outset (these didn't follow the ITV regions) but they had something at Knutsford (at some point at least, maybe not in 1983)., but because they were running out of money and that stuff cost a fortune it was probably one of the first things that got dismantled/scrapped to start saving money.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Steve in Pudsey - 02-07-2023

BAT3 would have been a circuit from Central (Birmingham ATV).

I think Neil's explanation makes sense - if it had been BT's screw up then I wouldn't have expected it to fade to black as it does - but why that would have been on the pres desk as they were put into circuit doesn't make a huge amount of sense.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - TIGHazard - 02-07-2023

I thought early on in TV-am's life there was a period in which the 9.25 switchover wasn't instant?

Had this already been fixed by July 1983?

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