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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - thegeek - 05-11-2023

(01-11-2023, 09:08 AM)Stooky Bill Wrote:  Presumably not intentional, it's probably the next junction that they've gone to rather than the caption. 

Without an understanding of Gaelic it's difficult to know what the announcement was

Looks like the satellite link was lost, probably rain related

The next programme was called Dàna, which is also what the last word of the announcement sounds like.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Bennyboy84 - 06-11-2023

https://youtu.be/vzx75U8kPds?si=8DNdL2AM0ikuCmw1 

First time I’ve seen a TNT Sports Breakdown Slide, thank you Bluefrog!

That was a whole lot of static just before the slide kicks in.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - callumwatchestelly - 10-11-2023

If you're a Millionaire fan like I am, this'll bother you in particularly. Challenge TV using the rave theme for early series repeats of Who Wants to be a Millionaire: https://www.facebook.com/MillionaireUKFanPage/videos/207344808829899  (skip to 58:37)

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Neil Jones - 10-11-2023

(10-11-2023, 04:45 PM)callumwatchestelly Wrote:  If you're a Millionaire fan like I am, this'll bother you in particularly. Challenge TV using the rave theme for early series repeats of Who Wants to be a Millionaire: https://www.facebook.com/MillionaireUKFanPage/videos/207344808829899  (skip to 58:37)

Yeah that was done for a reason.
That's not a "mistake" as such, its a deliberate decision.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - callumwatchestelly - 10-11-2023

(10-11-2023, 08:04 PM)Neil Jones Wrote:  Yeah that was done for a reason.
That's not a "mistake" as such, its a deliberate decision.

I'm curious, what do you think would be the reason? I can't really think of any reason why they couldn't use the original Millionaire theme, unless I'm being completely oblivious to something.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Bennyboy84 - 11-11-2023

Did I hear a double announcer just as the music and credits kick in or was I just hearing things?

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Neil Jones - 11-11-2023

(10-11-2023, 08:11 PM)callumwatchestelly Wrote:  I'm curious, what do you think would be the reason? I can't really think of any reason why they couldn't use the original Millionaire theme, unless I'm being completely oblivious to something.

When Challenge acquired those early episodes they had to remake the entire credit sequence for them, as the original was a three way split screen between the credits, the studio and a teletext/telephone number, and it was completely unusable. It was discussed in the blue place somewhere.

IIRC that music theme for the credits first time round isn't the same as they used on the opening titles, its a different "variation". Which probably wasn't clean, so Sky had to find an alternative solution. I know Millionaire released all their music cues on CD but that doesn't mean Challenge would have been able to use that.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - JAS84 - 11-11-2023

Sky? Wouldn't this have been long enough ago to be under their previous owners, Flextech?

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - callumwatchestelly - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 11:50 AM)JAS84 Wrote:  Sky? Wouldn't this have been long enough ago to be under their previous owners, Flextech?

As far as I know, when Challenge started airing these first few series of Millionaire the channel was under Sky.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - SuperSajuuk - 11-11-2023

(10-11-2023, 08:11 PM)callumwatchestelly Wrote:  I'm curious, what do you think would be the reason? I can't really think of any reason why they couldn't use the original Millionaire theme, unless I'm being completely oblivious to something.

Neil Jones explained it fairly well, but also, these very-early series of Millionaire were heavily sponsored by British companies [The Sun, McVities and so on]. This meant that a lot of the sections which featured these promotions needed to be deleted from the programme and replaced with something that didn't look too out of place or zoomed in significantly to cut them off. The end-title screen was as Neil described: there was no way it could be used, especially since you couldn't both delete out Chris' vocally saying what was on screen and simultaneously cover up the on-screen elements, without blatantly drawing attention to the fact its been edited.

For that reason, replacing them with their own creations that also happened to use the Rave music was fine. Remember, these re-airings came around in 2016, when all people would have likely had access to was the rave music. The turn-around time was tight on it as well iirc, as they had 4 series of episodes that they needed to QA check to see if it was broadcastable, edit out the bits that needed editing, designing a graphic to cover up on-screen elements where possible, but also, finding sequences that could be used as replacement footage for other parts that couldn't be covered up with a graphic. This ended up leading to one instance of a phone number not being deleted out as it should've been [which I think was fixed in subsequent re-airings].

Overall, they did a good enough job, and considering the long history of Challenge having only episodes that were vastly butchered with edits, the work that they did do to make a broadcastable episode that wasn't flooded in edits, in order to maintain the original broadcast length, is pretty good.

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