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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - rkolsen - 25-11-2023

I’m curious why there seem to be frequent breakdowns during sports? Are there not redundant paths, separate power supplies? I remember reading ESPN had used fiber paths for some college games but at the same time uses a CNG (with a diverse internet along cellular) to send it back.

I’m sure there are occasional breakdowns on things that air on ESPN+ where it may be a sprinter van producing the coverage. But the main channels it seems to be rare.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Bennyboy84 - 25-11-2023

Yeah there seems to be a lot of issues with live sports lately across many broadcasters. Quite rare for it to be the same programme, 2 weeks in a row and on the same channel with virtually the same fault as well.

Having said that it may be that while a sound loss could be an issue with TNT Sports playout, the accompanying frozen video may have been a problem with the feed they are using and that’s why they swiftly switched to ads while they sort things out.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - thegeek - 26-11-2023

From the point of view of an MCR - there are lots of different ways you could be bringing the feeds into your facility (fibre, satellite, and increasingly SRT streams over the public internet), and each has its own pitfalls, either before it hits you or with the way you deal with the signal once it's in the building.

Without knowing what caused the recent problems on TNT, I can say that the control system they're using in Chiswick is a lot more operationally complicated than what BT Sport had in Stratford, and trying to unpick why you might have silence going to playout can be a bit of a head-scratcher.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - harshy - 26-11-2023

I doubt TNT is using the 7e feeds for WWE must be fibered direct to TNT, maybe some issue there.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - thegeek - 26-11-2023

WWE's European distribution is both on satellite and available at BT Tower. BT Sport usually took both for resilience.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Stooky Bill - 26-11-2023

The level of resilience for sports coverage, or any programme for that matter, can depend on how much the channel is willing to pay. It's all about weighing up risk and cost. 

Paying for resilient downlinks or alternative fibre routes for some events might just not be worth it.

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - channel4squares1 - 27-11-2023

Some picture issues during a session of Songs of Praise one evening in 1998.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqmgzIDm2b4 

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Bennyboy84 - 27-11-2023

https://youtu.be/XjA83YB3j2o?si=6_hAmdVflkY5pEmB 

What would have caused this?

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - The Decimator - 27-11-2023

A personal favorite of mine is this glitch from WHEC in Rochester, NY (then a CBS station, now with NBC). They’re trying to go to break, but something goes wrong and they have to show an ancient “Do Not Adjust Your Set” slide.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YJIE1tpuVhM&list=PLTnbwiCw-mMQ0Pak82XOKJVchQQ5k4a7z&index=30&pp=iAQB 

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RE: TV Mistakes/Breakdowns - Neil Jones - 28-11-2023

I don't think that's a "break", that looks more like a playout issue? They go back to the show after about a minute or so, and they've already lost the sound by the time whoever that is walks out the door (it looks like Star Trek which I know next to nothing about)

The "slide" (which I'd argue is nothing of the sort as we know it!) is akin to photo projector that that locks the image into view - its obviously mechanical as somebody's spinning it around , and since the network dates from the 1950s I wouldn't be surprised if that's how old that "lost sound" is from the early days

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