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RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - nbafan890 - 20-11-2022

(20-11-2022, 05:08 PM)Jon Wrote:  Oh dear turns out the whole tournament  has been rigged.

looks like it


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Newshound47 - 20-11-2022

It seems like the commentators didn’t get the usual information as to why a VAR check is happening.

The graphics through explaining the Offside when finally appeared nearly 10 minutes after the goal was disallowed were very good through.


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - matthieu1221 - 20-11-2022

(20-11-2022, 05:07 PM)W. Knight Wrote:  Some local studio captures from Hong Kong. Your official broadcasters: ViuTV (FTA Ch.99) for 19 of the total matches, and cable network NowTV for the full coverage.
[Image: ViuTV%20WC%20Pan.png]



Pres wise, they're adopting the official graphics package for the matches (in traditional Chinese), and also utilized the graphic design in their programme junctions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYizI1PV_Zs 

Content wise, it's a bit on the traditional fluffy/match-oriented stuff: Not much on the controversies surrounding the holding country.

It's a real shame I can't find the Twitter thread from the Euro last year but it seems like nothing has changed in HK with all the men doing the 'serious' stuff and the women dressed in jerseys on the couch or elsewhere, whether it's Premiere League or FIFA/UEFA competitions (the Twitter thread was interesting with bemused people noting how sometimes the jerseys they wore had 0 relevance to the match they were commenting!).

So it turns out NowTV could afford the broadcasting rights. They were getting worried they were getting unaffordable for such a small population for it to be profitable. Last time (2018 I believe?), they were lucky enough to buy it back from a Mainland broadcaster that went belly up after having bid higher for the broadcasting rights).

Raises an interesting question, for countries with small populations (and perhaps even fewer people who watch football), how are broadcasters dealing with the skyrocketing price of broadcasting rights?


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - derek500 - 20-11-2022

(20-11-2022, 05:03 PM)nwtv2003 Wrote:  For what I think is the first time, the UHD stream on iPlayer does not have a huge BBC UHD on screen.

Excellent quality as ever, but why after years of trialling can't we get better than stereo sound?


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Medianext.MX - 20-11-2022

(20-11-2022, 06:27 PM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  It's a real shame I can't find the Twitter thread from the Euro last year but it seems like nothing has changed in HK with all the men doing the 'serious' stuff and the women dressed in jerseys on the couch or elsewhere, whether it's Premiere League or FIFA/UEFA competitions (the Twitter thread was interesting with bemused people noting how sometimes the jerseys they wore had 0 relevance to the match they were commenting!).

This is also the case is my home nation (Mexico). Broadcasters often do place its men commentators doing all the reporting stuff and the women only doing lighter reporting. However, in recent years, more women have been having place as commentators in these roles, however, this is mostly relegated to cable broadcasters; TUDN (Televisa), which is the rights holders to the World Cup in Mexico, have placed two young, knowledgeable reporters, Valeria Marín and Ana Caty Hernández, alongside the longer established men announcers; and they also sent their chief anchors and reporters Denise Maerker and Karla Iberia Sánchez to do more serious news-oriented reporting; however, there are still a high proportion of women used as "visual attractive" for viewers, being relegated to lifestyle features. It is just disgusting to see still so, and I share the bemusement of Hong Kong viewers (which is less so in Mexico).

(20-11-2022, 06:27 PM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  Raises an interesting question, for countries with small populations (and perhaps even fewer people who watch football), how are broadcasters dealing with the skyrocketing price of broadcasting rights?

In the Caribbean, DIRECTV signed a deal with Jamaican broadcasters CVM Television and Verticast, covering the entire of the English-speaking Caribbean countries; in Africa, Multichoice's SuperSport and Togoan broadcaster New World TV signed a deal with many PSBs and some commercial channels in key markets. In Thailand, where the broadcast of the World Cup is in their equivalent to the Crown Jewel sports rights mandatory to FTA broadcasters, the Ministry of Tourism and Sports bought the rights and they successfully managed deal with 17 of the 23 existing national FTA channels. This is according to FIFA's list of RHBs.


Many of you didn't talk about the Olympic-style opening ceremony. Even if the overall production was much bigger, had good production values and was better planned than the other opening ceremonies in World Cup history, it was an incoherent, lifeless mess of pottage. The theme was all about "tolerance and diversity", something which can't be told about the host country. Having Morgan Freeman was just unnecessary, and it is at odds on his activism. The dearth of star personalities owing to their boycott of the event (other than BTS' Jungkook) and the lack of any clear path in the artistic part of the ceremony (it is about talking about Qatar, or it is the Super Bowl halftime show?) just made the ceremony really lacklustre compared to any Olympic opening ceremony in history (even the also lacklustre, but tolerable and somehow better executed Tokyo 2020 and Beijing 2022 ceremonies). Even with this, they indeed set a new high in their production values for a World Cup ceremony. It looked good visually, but the concept and narrative was poorly executed, making the overall product pale in comparison to all examples mentioned.


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - TIGHazard - 20-11-2022

(20-11-2022, 07:47 PM)Medianext.MX Wrote:  
(20-11-2022, 06:27 PM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  It's a real shame I can't find the Twitter thread from the Euro last year but it seems like nothing has changed in HK with all the men doing the 'serious' stuff and the women dressed in jerseys on the couch or elsewhere, whether it's Premiere League or FIFA/UEFA competitions (the Twitter thread was interesting with bemused people noting how sometimes the jerseys they wore had 0 relevance to the match they were commenting!).

This is also the case is my home nation (Mexico). Broadcasters often do place its men commentators doing all the reporting stuff and the women only doing lighter reporting. However, in recent years, more women have been having place as commentators in these roles, however, this is mostly relegated to cable broadcasters; TUDN (Televisa), which is the rights holders to the World Cup in Mexico, have placed two young, knowledgeable reporters, Valeria Marín and Ana Caty Hernández, alongside the longer established men announcers; and they also sent their chief anchors and reporters Denise Maerker and Karla Iberia Sánchez to do more serious news-oriented reporting; however, there are still a high proportion of women used as "visual attractive" for viewers, being relegated to lifestyle features. It is just disgusting to see still so, and I share the bemusement of Hong Kong viewers (which is less so in Mexico).

(20-11-2022, 06:27 PM)matthieu1221 Wrote:  Raises an interesting question, for countries with small populations (and perhaps even fewer people who watch football), how are broadcasters dealing with the skyrocketing price of broadcasting rights?

In the Caribbean, DIRECTV signed a deal with Jamaican broadcasters CVM Television and Verticast, covering the entire of the English-speaking Caribbean countries; in Africa, Multichoice's SuperSport and Togoan broadcaster New World TV signed a deal with many PSBs and some commercial channels in key markets. In Thailand, where the broadcast of the World Cup is in their equivalent to the Crown Jewel sports rights mandatory to FTA broadcasters, the Ministry of Tourism and Sports bought the rights and they successfully managed deal with 17 of the 23 existing national FTA channels. This is according to FIFA's list of RHBs.


Many of you didn't talk about the Olympic-style opening ceremony. Even if the overall production was much bigger, had good production values and was better planned than the other opening ceremonies in World Cup history, it was an incoherent, lifeless mess of pottage. The theme was all about "tolerance and diversity", something which can't be told about the host country. Having Morgan Freeman was just unnecessary, and it is at odds on his activism. The dearth of star personalities owing to their boycott of the event (other than BTS' Jungkook) and the lack of any clear path in the artistic part of the ceremony (it is about talking about Qatar, or it is the Super Bowl halftime show?) just made the ceremony really lacklustre compared to any Olympic opening ceremony in history (even the also lacklustre, but tolerable and somehow better executed Tokyo 2020 and Beijing 2022 ceremonies). Even with this, they indeed set a new high in their production values for a World Cup ceremony. It looked good visually, but the concept and narrative was poorly executed, making the overall product pale in comparison to all examples mentioned.

That is because the BBC relegated it to an online only iPlayer stream.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/20/bbc-ignores-world-cup-opening-ceremony-in-favour-of-qatar-criticism 


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Technologist - 20-11-2022

And Red button …
So the opening ceremony was emitted
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001fkfz 


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Jon - 20-11-2022

Yes, at most the opening ceremony of these maybe get a 30 seconds mention or the headline act featured at the best of times.


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Medianext.MX - 20-11-2022

Good… now Fox is being trashed for its “no controversy” approach to the event, and USA Today is also commending the BBC (videos are geoblocked, so get your VPNs ready)…

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/fox-sports-fifa-world-cup-qatar-coverage-video-reaction-human-rights 


RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - London Lite - 20-11-2022

Telemundo also decided to focus on corruption allegations and the treatment of migrant workers.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1594365031654662144