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RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Brekkie - 10-12-2022
Thought the BBC might go for the underdog story with Morocco v France - their FA Cup picks usually lean that way too. Seems only fair to each broadcast to take the semi final of the teams they didn't show in the quarters.
As for 2026 - it'll be a BBC/ITV split as usual but it'll be interesting to see how the new format affects the value because this tournament more than most has shown how perfectly structured the 32-team structure is with some big clashes in the group stages and then relatively quick through the knock out stage. The change to 48 teams may mean an extra 16 matches, but it'll keep the top 16 seeds apart (in 16 groups of 3) and end the drama of the final simultaneous group games, and although this tournament has shown upsets can always happen that extra round of 32 meanas you potentially have 64 matches before the tournament really gets going.
Newshound47 - Newshound47 - 11-12-2022
(10-12-2022, 11:40 PM)Neil Jones Wrote:But can Ofcom actually tell Netflix or Prime you can’t show it because of the regulations. They can for broadcast channels but do they actually have the power to stop streamers.(10-12-2022, 11:31 PM)Newshound47 Wrote: It would be interesting to see what happens if FIFA simply refuse to sell to a broadcaster. Ofcom don’t have full power over streaming services so could they actually block them?
Have you not read a word I wrote?
If FIFA don't sell to the BBC or ITV, the legislation means the event is protected and has to go on a channel/outlet that can be seen subject to the criteria. Probably nothing to stop them selling it to Prime, though how is that going to meet the "free to air" criteria and "receivable by 95% of the population" criteria? The latter falls down straight away and the former, well streaming isn't Free to air, because you have to pay for the broadband and the phone line if nothing else.
RE: Newshound47 - Andrew - 11-12-2022
(11-12-2022, 12:00 AM)Newshound47 Wrote:(10-12-2022, 11:40 PM)Neil Jones Wrote: Have you not read a word I wrote?But can Ofcom actually tell Netflix or Prime you can’t show it because of the regulations. They can for broadcast channels but do they actually have the power to stop streamers.
If FIFA don't sell to the BBC or ITV, the legislation means the event is protected and has to go on a channel/outlet that can be seen subject to the criteria. Probably nothing to stop them selling it to Prime, though how is that going to meet the "free to air" criteria and "receivable by 95% of the population" criteria? The latter falls down straight away and the former, well streaming isn't Free to air, because you have to pay for the broadband and the phone line if nothing else.
They could show it, but it’d have to be shown on free to air broadcast television as well
Eurosport has had various World Cup and/or euros rights in the past, but it still had to be shown on BBC/ITV
RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - DTV - 11-12-2022
(10-12-2022, 11:59 PM)Brekkie Wrote: As for 2026 - it'll be a BBC/ITV split as usual but it'll be interesting to see how the new format affects the value because this tournament more than most has shown how perfectly structured the 32-team structure is with some big clashes in the group stages and then relatively quick through the knock out stage. The change to 48 teams may mean an extra 16 matches, but it'll keep the top 16 seeds apart (in 16 groups of 3) and end the drama of the final simultaneous group games, and although this tournament has shown upsets can always happen that extra round of 32 meanas you potentially have 64 matches before the tournament really gets going.
I think the consensus is increasingly that FIFA are going to drop the 16x3 format in favour of a 12x4 format - which actually means even more games (104!). Would clog up schedules even more and presumably have to last at least a month-and-a-half.
RE: Newshound47 - Jon - 11-12-2022
(11-12-2022, 12:03 AM)Andrew Wrote:In the case of Eurosport I think that was all linked to the EBU being rights holders. And of course UKTV G2 (Dave) had the rights to all the BBC games once but I think there was some weird rule at the time which meant the BBC had to give some rights to a digital only channel(11-12-2022, 12:00 AM)Newshound47 Wrote: But can Ofcom actually tell Netflix or Prime you can’t show it because of the regulations. They can for broadcast channels but do they actually have the power to stop streamers.
They could show it, but it’d have to be shown on free to air broadcast television as well
Eurosport has had various World Cup and/or euros rights in the past, but it still had to be shown on BBC/ITV
Of course if they’d have to share their live games, there is little incentive for the streamers or pay broadcasters getting involved.
Newshound47 - Newshound47 - 11-12-2022
(11-12-2022, 12:03 AM)Andrew Wrote:(11-12-2022, 12:00 AM)Newshound47 Wrote: But can Ofcom actually tell Netflix or Prime you can’t show it because of the regulations. They can for broadcast channels but do they actually have the power to stop streamers.
They could show it, but it’d have to be shown on free to air broadcast television as well
Eurosport has had various World Cup and/or euros rights in the past, but it still had to be shown on BBC/ITV
But what happens if FIFA say we don’t agree we have sold all the rights to a streamer. It feels like a loophole in the current rules. Is there a way for Ofcom to block the streamer from being able do that as they don’t cover them in the same way. I can’t see one. It feels to me the rules need updating to stop this risk.
RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Newshound47 - 11-12-2022
Bad luck for the BBC really. First tournament since 2014 they have first pick of it and the first without a home nation in it. Perfectly possible ITV’s semi could beat it in the ratings as well particularly the peak,
RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - Jon - 11-12-2022
(11-12-2022, 12:39 AM)Newshound47 Wrote: Bad luck for the BBC really. First tournament since 2914 they have first pick of it and the first without a home nation in it. Perfectly possible ITV’s semi could beat it in the ratings as well particularly the peak,Well the 2914 World Cup hasn’t happened yet, and they haven’t even chosen the planet that will host it.
RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - RhysJR - 11-12-2022
(11-12-2022, 12:56 AM)Jon Wrote:(11-12-2022, 12:39 AM)Newshound47 Wrote: Bad luck for the BBC really. First tournament since 2914 they have first pick of it and the first without a home nation in it. Perfectly possible ITV’s semi could beat it in the ratings as well particularly the peak,Well the 2914 World Cup hasn’t happened yet, and they haven’t even chosen the planet that will host it.
Probably would be somewhere like Skaro or the Death Star knowing who FIFA likes dealing with...
Back to the present, and I'm surprised the BBC went with Morocco v. France as they have been quite keen on the Messi factor this tournament (and presumably he would carry more of a casual audience than almost other stories left possible). But, with the 3PPO, the BBC will show his (likely) final World Cup match anyway so, as was mentioned upthread it is fair enough that either broadcaster shoes the opposite side of the draw than they showed in the quarter-finals.
RE: 2022 FIFA World Cup - JAS84 - 11-12-2022
I wonder if the BBC picked that fixture before they even knew who Morocco's opponents would be? After all, that's the fixture that might have involved England had a certain someone not missed a penalty (it's ALWAYS penalties with England, they never learn).