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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - interestednovice - 21-03-2023

(21-03-2023, 08:43 AM)Stooky Bill Wrote:  

(20-03-2023, 11:02 PM)interestednovice Wrote:  Interesting, so normally it is a rare Freeview outing of BBC One Nightlight (effectively)!

No, because that is only going out on the SD transponder at 28.2e which is the one that satellite viewers are receiving. 

Having a red caption saying about buying a new receiver would look odd and cause confusion on terrestrial where there's no SD closure scheme

True, but I assume they simply don’t insert the red screen blanking for that feed - it would be “network” from London, totally unblanked.

Not quite Nightlight, but region-less as Nightlight is.

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harshy - harshy - 21-03-2023

(21-03-2023, 09:09 AM)Stooky Bill Wrote:  

(20-03-2023, 11:13 PM)Spencer Wrote:  So if the whole two muxes are being fed by satellite to the Bilsdale relays, what’s the purpose of the solo BBC One NE&C HD stream reported by @harshy and the SD equivalent mentioned by @Stooky Bill?

I don't think it's a seperate 'stream', they're the BBC One's that have always been on 27.5w, but just fed with the North East version of BBC One 

The transponder carries seperate services for the channels on PSB1 and PSB3 including national variants of BBC1 (see below) and the transmitter selects the correct combination to transmit. 

Well there is the generic bbc one hd which was always there but now this north east version is there too as a separate channel.

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RE: harshy - Stooky Bill - 21-03-2023

(21-03-2023, 06:56 PM)harshy Wrote:  

(21-03-2023, 09:09 AM)Stooky Bill Wrote:  I don't think it's a seperate 'stream', they're the BBC One's that have always been on 27.5w, but just fed with the North East version of BBC One 

The transponder carries seperate services for the channels on PSB1 and PSB3 including national variants of BBC1 (see below) and the transmitter selects the correct combination to transmit. 

Well there is the generic bbc one hd which was always there but now this north east version is there too as a separate channel.

Makes sense I suppose as the HD BBC One on there will be to back up Scotland, Wales and NI too whereas it does carry SD backups of those. 

There's no sign of that new service on Lyngsat despite it being updated yesterday. Although it says that transponder has BBC One Yorkshire SD on it, which isn't the case, it's North East

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(21-03-2023, 05:13 PM)interestednovice Wrote:  True, but I assume they simply don’t insert the red screen blanking for that feed - it would be “network” from London, totally unblanked.

Not quite Nightlight, but region-less as Nightlight is.

Yes, just the network version with no slates. 

Of course in normal times having the HD slate on the backup wouldn't be appropriate either - pointing HD viewers to tune to 1 for their regional news when if the satellite back up is in use it won't be on 1 either!

Not that that will be an option in 5 weeks time anyway

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - harshy - 22-03-2023

Both bbc one hd and bbc one ne&c hd showed the HD red slate as now only seen on iPlayer on 27.5w

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Stooky Bill - 22-03-2023

(22-03-2023, 09:03 AM)harshy Wrote:  Both bbc one hd and bbc one ne&c hd showed the HD red slate as now only seen on iPlayer on 27.5w

Makes sense as the North East isn't going HD until the second phase at the end of April. Presumably having Look North in HD on some transmitters in that region and a red slate on others is extra confusion they don't need

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - IanJRedman - 24-03-2023

Somebody over on Digital Spy has pointed out that BBC One West HD (on satellite) is permanently broadcasting audio in 5.1, even for stereo content.

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Jimbo2022 - 24-03-2023

(22-03-2023, 09:03 AM)harshy Wrote:  Both bbc one hd and bbc one ne&c hd showed the HD red slate as now only seen on iPlayer on 27.5w

Is SID 17540 and 17545 on 27.& West the same PIDs IE same stream?

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harshy - harshy - 24-03-2023

(24-03-2023, 03:31 PM)Jimbo2022 Wrote:  

(22-03-2023, 09:03 AM)harshy Wrote:  Both bbc one hd and bbc one ne&c hd showed the HD red slate as now only seen on iPlayer on 27.5w

Is SID 17540 and 17545 on 27.& West the same PIDs IE same stream?

I think it is it’s 6601 on both of them.

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - mrwish - 27-03-2023

(24-03-2023, 03:23 PM)IanJRedman Wrote:  Somebody over on Digital Spy has pointed out that BBC One West HD (on satellite) is permanently broadcasting audio in 5.1, even for stereo content.

That was me  Seems to be fixed now -

[code]Program 1
    Metadata:
      service_name    : BBC One Wst HD
      service_provider: BSkyB
  Stream #0:0[0x13ec]: Video: h264 (High) ([27][0][0][0] / 0x001B), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn
  Stream #0:1[0x13f1](NAR): Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 256 kb/s
  Stream #0:2[0x13f0](eng): Subtitle: dvb_subtitle ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006)
  Stream #0:3[0x13ef](eng,eng): Subtitle: dvb_teletext ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006), 492x250
  Stream #0:4[0x13ed](eng): Audio: ac3 ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s[/code]

(24-03-2023, 08:46 PM)harshy Wrote:  

(24-03-2023, 03:31 PM)Jimbo2022 Wrote:  Is SID 17540 and 17545 on 27.& West the same PIDs IE same stream?

I think it is it’s 6601 on both of them.

Yes, both labels point to the same streams in the same way as it's been on the DVB-T2 muxes themselves -

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RE: BBC phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023 - Nick Harvey - 12-04-2023

Sky have now rationalised the channel numbers, up in the nine hundreds, to complete the HD exercise.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/sky-shuffles-bbc-channels/ 

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