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RE: CITV is to close - WillPS - 27-08-2023

(27-08-2023, 05:02 PM)James2001 Wrote:  I know TCC continued as a feed for the Nordic channels for a couple of years after (for contractual reasons), which I think is what Cable & Wireless carried for a few months though I don't think that showed Batman, Dennis or Art Attack- the three shows they signpost as being "back tomorrow.

It wasn't TCC Nordic (which was branded as such and carried adverts), but it did use elements of TCC Nordic's branding. 

It was a tape based playout, which was a common means of distribution in the early days of cable but not so much after Sky Multichannel, with spaces for ads to be inserted although none were. When they ran out of tapes they just went back to the first tape - and I'm sure I remember reading that it would screw up frequently.

And yes, you're right it didn't have those programmes I don't think but the channel was indeed 'back tomorrow' for a subset of viewers, unlike Carlton Kids.

(TCC also wasn't really a forerunner to the CITV channel, other than programming the only link was TCC and CITV both used Central's studios for a time but even then TCC used Nottingham rather than Birmingham)

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RE: CITV is to close - JAS84 - 27-08-2023

(27-08-2023, 05:02 PM)James2001 Wrote:  I know TCC continued as a feed for the Nordic channels for a couple of years after (for contractual reasons), which I think is what Cable & Wireless carried for a few months though I don't think that showed Batman, Dennis or Art Attack- the three shows they signpost as being "back tomorrow".

The website stayed up for years after the channel closed, I presume the schedule on there is the one the Nordic feed looped for 2 years:

https://web.archive.org/web/19980624180810/http://www.tcc.co.uk/schedules.html 

It's a much more basic schedule with fewer programmes than was listed a couple of months earlier while the channel was still on air, especially the "bigger" shows:

https://web.archive.org/web/19980220113528/http://www.tcc.co.uk/schedules.html 

I guess the Nordic feed was based around what they could get on the cheap to just be looping for 2 years until the contract expired, stuff like Sonic, Dennis, Art Attack, Batman, Felix the Cat etc. was probably too expensive for a bare bones service they probably didn't expect anyone to watch.

Edit: just spotted they had a separate schedule page for TCC Nordic, which was quite a fair bit different from the main TCC channel (including several shows that had moved to Trouble in the UK), still a lot more programmes than listed in the May 1998 (post-UK closure) schedule though.

https://web.archive.org/web/19980220113528/http://www.tcc.co.uk/nordic.html 

Wasn't that Dennis cartoon a BBC/Flextech co-production? In any case, I think TCC sold the rights to that show to Fox Kids. Batman probably went to Cartoon Network (DC Comics and CN have a common owner, Warner). Art Attack eventually ended up on Disney Channel. Adventures of Sonic was already five years old, and probably didn't air again for years.

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RE: CITV is to close - James2001 - 27-08-2023

I'm pretty sure Batman never aired on Cartoon Network. For a start, it wasn't a cartoon, and also, the show is owned by Fox, not DC/Warner. Was a right wrangle between them to get the show to be able to come out on DVD that took years (and the fans helping out) to solve (but Fox were always responsible for TV distribution, I think they... well, Disney now, ironically, with them being owners of rivals Marvel, still are).

I'm not sure if Flextech had anything to do with Dennis The Menace, but they were co-producers of Earthworm Jim (which IIRC was also on Channel 4)- though that was still in the post-UK closure Nordic schedule.

I think the next time Sonic popped up was on GMTV2 around 2003-ish, then on Pop not long after. That cartoon's become something of an internet meme since.

The pre-closure TCC schedule doesn't look too bad, there's a few recognisable shows (both in the UK and Nordic feeds), but the 1998-2000 Nordic schedule is terrible, clearly intentionally incredibly cheap just to fill a contract, there's only 2 or 3 shows in it that I've even heard of.

I remember watching TCC quite a lot at my aunt's house in the early 90s, she had Sky and it was the only kids channel at first, then it was alongside Cartoon Network (I don't think she ever had a subscription to Nickelodeon)- I remember being amazed by being able to flip through the audio through several languages on CN! I have memories of TCC having a week of OB continuity from Alton Towers, though I could be misremembering.

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RE: CITV is to close - Neil Jones - 27-08-2023

Cartoon Network had a character that was very Batman like, I think it was Space Ghost?

Dennis (the Menace) has had a few incarnations over the years, I think the mentioned one is the first TV adaptation after the videos? IIRC it was repeated for years until it was rebooted and the original was never seen again.

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RE: CITV is to close - James2001 - 27-08-2023

Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. I remember there being a lot of attention to Stuart Miles and Katy Hill appearing as themselves on one episode- it was still being repeated a decade later long after they were gone from Blue Peter and it must have baffled kids by then. The whole thing has come out on DVD and is in Amazon Prime, so it's not vanished entirely.

It looks like TCC actually aired a bizarre puppet version in the early 90s as well, there's some videos on YouTube.

The 2009 version had some quite awful character redesigns that carried over to the comic, but I don't think lasted long before reverting, and the CGI cartoon... when I first saw a poster for it in the muesum in Dundee it took a while to realise it was meant to be Dennis, god knows what the cartoon is like, but the character designs are awful.

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RE: CITV is to close - nwtv2003 - 28-08-2023

I’ve not seen it posted, but unsurprisingly ITV3+1 will be broadcasting 24 hours a day from Saturday on Freeview, or 9:00pm Friday, depending on how you read it.

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RE: CITV is to close - Roger Darthwell - 28-08-2023

(28-08-2023, 02:21 PM)nwtv2003 Wrote:  I’ve not seen it posted, but unsurprisingly ITV3+1 will be broadcasting 24 hours a day from Saturday on Freeview, or 9:00pm Friday, depending on how you read it.

So it looks like that ITV is keeping the Freeview channel for now

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RE: CITV is to close - CCFG - 28-08-2023

(28-08-2023, 02:21 PM)nwtv2003 Wrote:  I’ve not seen it posted, but unsurprisingly ITV3+1 will be broadcasting 24 hours a day from Saturday on Freeview, or 9:00pm Friday, depending on how you read it.

Does this mean ITVBe+1 & ITV4+1, both of which broadcast on the CITV/ITV3+1 stream between 04:00 - 05:00 and 05:00 - 06:00 respectively will be moving stream or closing?

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RE: CITV is to close - nwtv2003 - 28-08-2023

(28-08-2023, 02:43 PM)CCFG Wrote:  Does this mean ITVBe+1 & ITV4+1, both of which broadcast on the CITV/ITV3+1 stream between 04:00 - 05:00 and 05:00 - 06:00 respectively will be moving stream or closing?

Whilst I’ve not checked the actual EPG, the Freeview app has a 24 hour schedule for ITV3 +1.

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RE: CITV is to close - Jimbo2022 - 28-08-2023

Currently in satellite

ITV3+1 and itv4+1 are both 24 hours a day in 10.906V..itv Be+1 is not on satellite.

ITV Be+1 does not 'actually' exist, nor does ITV4+1 on Freeview.

Only teleshopping fir one hour each for both these channels 

ITV3+1 DOES go 24 hours on Friday night, nirmally would only be in 2100-0400.

Itv4+1 hours are 0400-9500 only carrying teleshopping, sane fir ITV Be+1 between 0500-0600.

But these two - ITV4+1 and ITV Be+1 teleshopping slots are to continue unchanged according to EPG. Teleshopping on ITV3+1 is also scheduled as part if the 24 hour broadcast

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