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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ViridianFan - 17-04-2023

Thought I’d take a look at what people were saying on Twitter about this mornings change. I have to say I’ve not seen on there a single positive tweet yet.

A lot of people asking why it was on three channels as well as 5live. The general consensus seems to be tuned into a news channel to watch the news not to watch a radio show.

There was also a few interesting comments about the reduction of UK content with one comment being that it feels more like a US news channel with bits of uk human interest stories squeezed in during ad breaks.

Whilst people are more likely to post a complaint than something positive but you’d expect to see some positive comments. It’s also fair to assume these aren’t all pres fans. It’s clear from some of the tweets that they are people who have not been following the details of the merger.

There’s been many comments on here that the general public won’t notice and that they can get their news other places but it’s clear from the tweets I’ve been reading that people are not happy, are noticing that stories the old channel would have run aren’t being included and there’s much more world slant.

I will say that I thought it was a decent show but it is pointless having it on three different channel and it’s not an replacement for what went before. Personally when I’m watching the news I’m not really interested in what Steve from Sheffield thinks, equally I’m not interested listening to talking heads giving their opinion.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - GraemeT88 - 17-04-2023

Good looking visualisation, if only the mic covered him quite a bit.

Is everyone here opposed to click, travel show, hard talk etc too - if you’re unhappy with anything being non bulletins/rolling news?

Talk tv, etc, is all proving popular - feels a sensible trial to see how it goes.

Debate shows - question time for example - are long running successful.

If the new policy is more Explainers etc, then two hour long debates with experts and the public looking at two current hot topics seems like has a lot of legs?

“It’s simulcasting everywhere” - hasn’t mornings been bbc2/news channels for years? And of course always on iplayer....

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - blue_dust - 17-04-2023

Having switched to BBC (World) NEWS for the first time in months and only a little bit aware of the merger, is this a deliberate thing of cancelling the ticker and having a big white bar only showing a bbc.com/news  „hint“. The whole day it has been the same. I am sure this is a joke ( i am not actually )

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Kojak - 17-04-2023

(17-04-2023, 09:40 PM)blue_dust Wrote:  Having switched to BBC (World) NEWS for the first time in months and only a little bit aware of the merger, is this a deliberate thing of cancelling the ticker and having a big white bar only showing a bbc.com/news  „hint“. The whole day it has been the same. I am sure this is a joke ( i am not actually )

Apparently it is deliberate (there was a lot of discussion about it some pages back). The official line is 'the ticker is too small to read if you're watching on a phone'. Many on this forum, myself included, don't share that view.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Juicy Joe - 17-04-2023

BBC News just missed the Newsnight critical junction, so did a quick fade halfway through the weather forecast to the Newsnight titles, having also missed the introduction by Faisal Islam. This is so sloppy from the BBC. Poor.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Thunderclap - 17-04-2023

(17-04-2023, 10:39 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  BBC News just missed the Newsnight critical junction, so did a quick fade halfway through the weather forecast to the Newsnight titles, having also missed the introduction by Faisal Islam. This is so sloppy from the BBC. Poor.

I noticed that too. Rather embarrassing it’s happened so soon. 

On a related note, I wonder what will happen when the 10 is extended on a big news day? Will the news channel crash out before the end of the 10 or join Newsnight late?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - whistlerpro - 17-04-2023

(17-04-2023, 10:46 PM)Thunderclap Wrote:  

(17-04-2023, 10:39 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  BBC News just missed the Newsnight critical junction, so did a quick fade halfway through the weather forecast to the Newsnight titles, having also missed the introduction by Faisal Islam. This is so sloppy from the BBC. Poor.

I noticed that too. Rather embarrassing it’s happened so soon. 

On a related note, I wonder what will happen when the 10 is extended on a big news day? Will the news channel crash out before the end of the 10 or join Newsnight late?

Ideally in such a situation you'd hope they would start playing Newsnight on delay after the programme. The ten and Newsnight quite often used to overlap so it might be quite a common occurrence.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - DTV - 17-04-2023

Sorry to return to a discussion from a few days ago, but I thought I'd try and get a better look at the differences between the various 'cuts' of the 2008 title sequence, so tried to compare them as closely frame-for-frame and it sort of evolved into this...


Left-to-right - 2008 World, 2013 World, 2008 UK/10, 2013 UK/10 (Long version) and 2022 Network/10 - all compiled from versions available on YouTube. 

The things of note
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[*]The only difference between 2008 UK and World versions are the cats cradles - largely this applies solely to city names, but the UK version is also a bit busier - most notably on the final shot.
[*]The 2013 World version is largely a recoloured (a bit orangey - plus Antarctica changes colour in the final shot) version of the 2008 titles, but the first shot is seemingly wholly redone - the 'pulses' on the white 'mask' layer have a tighter radius than on the other versions. There's also the addition of some extra text in the third shot and, not shown here, some shots are slowed down.
[*]The 2013 UK versions undergo their own recolouring (a deeper red). They adopt some of the World changes, but also feature some bigger edits of their own - the continent in the backdrop of the first shot is changed from North America to east Asia? (though it does not adopt the new World pattern); the background in the fourth shot is faded out (plus the cats cradle vanishes a few frames early); and the final shot sees Antarctica significantly repositioned within the globe and some changes to the the pulses. The cats cradle in the fifth shot is also now identical to the World version.
[*]With the 2013 UK versions, the shots that also feature in the standard short versions of the titles are the same as in the long version, except the penultimate shot which features the 'extra' cats cradle that is seen above in the 2022 version.
[*]Other than the changes to the cats cradle in the first shot, I was wrong to suggest the 2022 version was partly 'redrawn' the other day - it appears that the differences are largely the result of removing a few layers of detail and 'haze'.
[/list]

Just before others suggest it, I do recognise that, even by the standards of this forum, this is a bit too geeky/mad.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - London Lite - 17-04-2023

Franceinfo covered Macron's regular 8pm speeches to the nation which go out on TF1, France 2 and the news channels as well as Franceinfo.

Between 8-9pm, it's the turn of Franceinfo Radio to present that hour on tv. They covered Macron's speech, then a 40 minute debate with guests and journalists as part of the Les Informés programme. The average tv viewer wouldn't realise it was a radio simulcast as the tv studio in the radio station works well for tv. They still managed news headlines from the Radio France tv/radio headlines studio complete with visual copy to illustrate other news stories.

Compare that with Nicky Campbell and we're still way down the ladder when it comes to radio on tv presentation.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Stockland Hillman - 17-04-2023

(17-04-2023, 08:55 PM)ViridianFan Wrote:  Thought I’d take a look at what people were saying on Twitter about this mornings change. I have to say I’ve not seen on there a single positive tweet yet.

A lot of people asking why it was on three channels as well as 5live. The general consensus seems to be tuned into a news channel to watch the news not to watch a radio show.

There was also a few interesting comments about the reduction of UK content with one comment being that it feels more like a US news channel with bits of uk human interest stories squeezed in during ad breaks.

Whilst people are more likely to post a complaint than something positive but you’d expect to see some positive comments. It’s also fair to assume these aren’t all pres fans. It’s clear from some of the tweets that they are people who have not been following the details of the merger.

There’s been many comments on here that the general public won’t notice and that they can get their news other places  but it’s clear from the tweets I’ve been reading that people are not happy, are noticing that stories the old channel would have run aren’t being included and there’s much more world slant.

I will say that I thought it was a decent show but it is pointless having it on three different channel  and it’s not an replacement for what went before. Personally when I’m watching the news I’m not really interested in what Steve from Sheffield thinks, equally I’m not interested listening to talking heads giving their opinion.

I'd be very interested in the twitter search words you used for that.

Bbc Nicky Campbell is search bar , latest,  returns  a handful of comments today,  with some very digitalspy looking accounts and some downright odd ones with born on this day endless tweets; some odd bot looking ones that jump from US politics to UK with huge gaps between random posts. 

My search doesn't show anything relevant from anyone who looks remotely like an typical member of the public (tweets on a range of topics,  has opinions on events rather than retreats, or behaves organically)

So no, 'a lot' of people didn't comment,  probably more people liked your post that gave  negative opinion TODAY about the show on BBC News Channel 

Perhaps your search terms reveals  more, please share (also might reveal twitter algorithm biases, which itself is interesting)

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