BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Printable Version

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - harshy - 26-06-2023

Backwards along with all things related to the bbc news merged channel this year - rubbish.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - aaron_scotland - 26-06-2023

It's all a joke just to wind us up, it has to be.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - South - 26-06-2023

Can anyone confirm whether the name straps are also red, or do they remain as black?

Personally I have never been a fan of the BBC News graphics, the three line strap takes us back to the early 00s when the BBC declared in 2005 that too much of the scree was taken up by text and introduced the short lived red and black package, which in my opinion was the best the graphics have ever looked.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - all new phil - 26-06-2023

(26-06-2023, 09:40 AM)South Wrote:  Can anyone confirm whether the name straps are also red, or do they remain as black?

Personally I have never been a fan of the BBC News graphics, the three line strap takes us back to the early 00s when the BBC declared in 2005 that too much of the scree was taken up by text and introduced the short lived red and black package, which in my opinion was the best the graphics have ever looked.

Name straps are red as well. 

I guess BBC One bulletins are keeping the black graphics?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Brekkie - 26-06-2023

That's just awful - but probably deliberate so people think there is always breaking news.

Even regardless of the colour a solid strap covering pretty much the lower third of the screen is so annoying anyhow - almost always if BBC News is covering a press conference or event live I will usually seek out an alternative where I can actually see more if the picture.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - agentsquash - 26-06-2023

Between this and Breakfast, you wonder if graphics at the BBC are being outsourced to a random guy online.

So much potential been let down by sloppy pres.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - all new phil - 26-06-2023

Red on the World feed too right now if anyone’s wondering. The thin line above the ticker when there is no strap in use has also turned red.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Moz - 26-06-2023

(26-06-2023, 09:45 AM)Brekkie Wrote:  That's just awful - but probably deliberate so people think there is always breaking news.

Even regardless of the colour a solid strap covering pretty much the lower third of the screen is so annoying anyhow - almost always if BBC News is covering a press conference or event live I will usually seek out an alternative where I can actually see more if the picture.

Why do you want to see more of the picture? During a press conference? I don’t get it. What information do you glean from seeing more of the microphone stands?

News is about information, most of that can be conveyed by text, graphics and what the presenter is saying. Most of the time the pictures are fine in a box in the corner.

If you want full screen pictures and no graphics, then Pathé News is your thing.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Brekkie - 26-06-2023

(26-06-2023, 10:31 AM)Moz Wrote:  Why do you want to see more of the picture? During a press conference? I don’t get it. What information do you glean from seeing more of the microphone stands?

News is about information, most of that can be conveyed by text, graphics and what the presenter is saying. Most of the time the pictures are fine in a box in the corner.

If you want full screen pictures and no graphics, then Pathé News is your thing.

A picture is worth 1000 words.

The Nottingham vigil was a disgrace - so much raw emotion from the speakers but the BBC not only had the Aston taking the bottom third but a pushback reducing the picture to about a quarter of the screen.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - LDN - 26-06-2023

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https://ibb.co/2h2Pw01 

The decision to fully recolour all lower thirds in red on BBC News strikes me as bizarre for several reasons: 
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[*]The full-red layout has been used for breaking news for years. Now, all news looks like breaking news -- and some viewers may well wonder why stories like "Putin: the beginning of the end?" or "Elton closes Glastonbury in style" are seemingly being flagged as breaking news. 
[*]How will breaking news stories be flagged or grab one's attention if breaking news looks like yesterday's news? 
[*]BBC News recently ditched the second line of text on the main super, in favour of a single large line of serif text. This was bad enough when the text was on a translucent black background, allowing some of the picture behind it to be seen. Now, that entire section of the screen is a fixed red box with that whole section of the screen more-or-less permanently obscured.
[*]The large-serif-headline configuration on the lower thirds was only ever intended to display the briefest of headlines (much like the graphics used during headlines summaries), alternating with the 'BREAKING' text. It was never meant to be used, as it is now, for descriptive summaries or detailed updates to a story, which is how we end up with this sort of mess: 

Making this whole area one flat expanse of red on a near-permanent basis only seems to call further attention to how poorly these graphics are now working. We either have one very large and very undescriptive headline on screen for several minutes, or we have a ridiculously small but more descriptive headline surrounded by an ocean of wasted space. And instead of actually improving the design to work with its new way of doing things, or even backtracking a little bit on its obsessive reduction of on-screen text, BBC News just decided to make the whole thing red. 
[*]There's a fairly unpleasant colour clash between BBC News red and the bright teal 'NICKY CAMPBELL' bug. But that's a matter of taste -- more significantly, what's going to happen with programmes like The Context and Focus on Africa, which have only recently received red programme name-bugs? Red on red? 
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In my opinion, this is a change that improves nothing. It fully and permanently blocks out the bottom chunk of the screen; it calls greater attention to the idiotic decision to only display a headline on the lower thirds; and like almost every other aspect of recent BBC News design, it looks utterly basic (in every sense of the word) and thrown-together. I just don't see what problem this was supposed to solve, or why anyone would consider at an improvement in any sense. 

I could have lived with it if they'd stopped at turning the logo bar into a full red strip... 

...and left the translucent black background in place, instead of making everything all-red, all day. Frankly, that would have been just as pointless a change in my eyes, but I think it would have looked a lot more pleasant than the Great Wall of China Red that we're now stuck with.

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