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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - South - 04-08-2023

I see as a result if the football next Tuesday morning the news at one moves to 11am on BBC One, which is only 20 mins long, meanwhile the update schedule on BBC Two has the BBC news simulcast finishing at 11.30, I assume due to the length of the 1 it will not be simulcast on the News channel, therefore both One and Two will have different news output, surely that must be a first other than Newsnight and 10.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ginnyfan - 04-08-2023

Matthew in E, as it happens from time to time now. Which begs the question, why have they left this studio in the first place? At least a one shot set up of LIVE newsroom brings some life to the lifeless new channel. There's no renovations or anything happening in E and there's nothing to indicate it was planned at all. Just move back there for good!

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Reith85 - 04-08-2023

A few months on since they merged the channels, there are still things that baffle me about it. I realise BBC News is now running on a skeleton staff but how nobody at New Broadcasting House seems to be able to exercise any decent judgement over the following is genuinely perplexing:

- BBC News Now, The Daily Global, Verified Live: quite simply, why? If you're going to brand segments of the day, at least make an effort of it in terms of the editorial content and the visual identity. To give these segments half-baked title sequences but then not to follow through with distinctive journalistic content or any differentiated visual branding in the astons or the studio completely defeats the purpose of introducing the brands in the first place. They're entirely tokenistic, nothing more. That's not the fault of the presenters, who are more than capable. But it's a complete nonsense that you have Matthew Amroliwala introducing Verified Live saying it's 3 hours of fact checking etc etc - I've watched the Verified Live hours on several occasions and it's essentially a few hours of standard BBC News reports and interviews as you find on any other hour of the News Channel. I can understand why The Context continues to be branded as such as that's clearly a discussion based show with Christian Fraser but the other segments should just revert back to BBC News.

- I don't understand how the likes of Chris Cook tweeted a while ago about the bloodbath of the lower thirds as if it's a proud achievement behind the scenes. The bright red of the breaking news strap is literally blinding. Not to mention that there's now little difference between breaking news and usual news lower thirds. How did anyone think this was a good idea visually? I simply don't understand.

- The way the flipper only operates properly for certain hours of the day and is stuck on the pointless URL at all other hours is very frustrating. Is the BBC News division that seriously underfunded now that we have to rely only on one or two people overseeing the flipper, but as soon as they go home for the day, that's it? The BBC audience (what's left of it) has to make do with a flipper stuck redundantly on a website address before said people come back into work? Either have a flipper that functions at all hours or don't have one at all.

I watch the shadow of the channel that the BBC News Channel now is and I think that the likes of Deborah Turness and Paul Royall need reminding that this channel has a remit as a public service news channel in the UK - it can't all be about the international audience.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - lepeterrr - 04-08-2023

(04-08-2023, 03:34 PM)ginnyfan Wrote:  Matthew in E, as it happens from time to time now. Which begs the question, why have they left this studio in the first place? At least a one shot set up of LIVE newsroom brings some life to the lifeless new channel. There's no renovations or anything happening in E and there's nothing to indicate it was planned at all. Just move back there for good!

And it they really want to save money, its cheaper since there's no massive LED wall to power!

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Radio_man - 04-08-2023

Is only the first hour of Nicky Campbell's phone-in now shown on the News Channel? Since Wednesday, only 9 - 10am has been shown on the NC, even though the phone-in has continued until 11am on 5Live. And every morning next week only 9-10am is showing on iPlayer as scheduled on the NC, with BBC News from 10am.

Has it finally dawned on managers that a radio phone-in does not work on a TV news channel?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - DTV - 04-08-2023

(04-08-2023, 05:45 PM)Reith85 Wrote:  I watch the shadow of the channel that the BBC News Channel now is and I think that the likes of Deborah Turness and Paul Royall need reminding that this channel has a remit as a public service news channel in the UK - it can't all be about the international audience.

Can we have at least a week off between the 'it's World News in everything but name' nonsenses? It just objectively isn't. For an international news channel, there's a lot of domestic news - with core UK hours leading with UK stories about as often as they don't. Sure, it's less than the old News channel, but it's a lot more UK-heavy than World ever was.

(04-08-2023, 06:05 PM)Radio_man Wrote:  Is only the first hour of Nicky Campbell's phone-in now shown on the News Channel? Since Wednesday, only 9 - 10am has been shown on the NC, even though the phone-in has continued until 11am on 5Live. And every morning next week only 9-10am is showing on iPlayer as scheduled on the NC, with BBC News from 10am.
Has it finally dawned on managers that a radio phone-in does not work on a TV news channel?

I believe this is down to scheduling issues around the Women's World Cup. Back to 09:00-11:00 from 14/08.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Reith85 - 04-08-2023

(04-08-2023, 06:16 PM)DTV Wrote:  Lord help us, can we have at least a week off between the 'it's World News in everything but name' nonsenses. It just objectively isn't. For an international news channel, there's a lot of domestic news - with core UK hours leading with UK stories about as often as they don't. Sure, it's less than the old News channel, but it's a lot more UK-heavy than World ever was.

Point taken but I stand by the other observations made in my post about the pointless branding of BBC News Now / The Daily Global / Verified Live, which ultimately mean very little in editorial terms and in on-screen visual identity, as well as my points about the "creative" decisions taken on other aspects of the merged channel's visual identity. 

It's a minor miracle that UK ratings for the channel have recovered after that initial drop in the first month of the merger because I increasingly find it difficult, and occasionally, embarrassing to watch the BBC News Channel given the now fairly regular on-air mistakes and weaknesses in visual identity.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - harshy - 04-08-2023

Well the rest of bbc news away from the channel hasn’t changed I can only assume the best behind the scenes people are working on network news and in Salford and the rookies/newbies are on the news channel beginning their careers, who knows but the news channel sticks out like a sorry red thumb.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Newsroom - 04-08-2023

(04-08-2023, 05:45 PM)lepeterrr Wrote:  And it they really want to save money, its cheaper since there's no massive LED wall to power!

Have you watched the DTL shots over varying bulletins?  E is never offline. How could it be? We've never seen the channel decamped to D. It's THE only backup solution.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - News76 - 04-08-2023

(04-08-2023, 06:16 PM)DTV Wrote:  Can we have at least a week off between the 'it's World News in everything but name' nonsenses? It just objectively isn't. For an international news channel, there's a lot of domestic news - with core UK hours leading with UK stories about as often as they don't. Sure, it's less than the old News channel, but it's a lot more UK-heavy than World ever was.

I believe this is down to scheduling issues around the Women's World Cup. Back to 09:00-11:00 from 14/08.

No it isn't-not when it's World heavy channel wise-Whoever thought having one News operation was a good idea because of cost really didn't do the sums or read the room properly.

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