Pres Café
BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Printable Version

+- Pres Café (https://pres.cafe)
+-- Forum: Pres Café TV and Radio Forums (https://pres.cafe/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: News and Sport Presentation (https://pres.cafe/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Thread: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) (/showthread.php?tid=412)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - m_in_m - 13-08-2023

(13-08-2023, 08:47 AM)Spencer Wrote:  A minor thing, and I know this was almost certainly a mistake, but I think I prefer the location text in mixed case, as seen on Breakfast this morning, rather than full caps…

[Image: 4A91C857-754C-4CF7-A74E-2FE519ACB221.jpeg]

Is there a reason they don't take the text that is input and automatically convert it to upper case? That would eliminate this error on this graphic.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Spencer - 13-08-2023

(13-08-2023, 10:06 AM)Worzel Wrote:  The only problem with that is if they use letters which drop below the baseline, such as g, y, q etc as there's not enough black space to accommodate them. Central London doesn't have any descenders so looks OK.
Fair point, but they manage to accommodate mixed case text in similar sized blocks for various purposes, such as Twitter handles, in the bottom right of the screen. I just think it’d match the rest of their current graphics better not to have it in shouty capitals. But, as I say, a very minor thing, and the least of their worries given the state of the News Channel’s lower thirds.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ALV - 13-08-2023

The UK feed is currently simulcasting the weekend evening bulletin. The EPG still shows Sportsday being scheduled at 1830.
[Image: 443452a7449c05ab3d7e34632d1aac25.png]
I couldn't observe a pattern on what circumstances will the UK feed take the weekend bulletins... Do they simulcast when it starts at :00/:30 or it's just a random decision?


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - interestednovice - 13-08-2023

They probably just throw them in when it fits the schedule easily, as a cheap way to count up UK content hours and deflect criticism of the merger.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Reith85 - 13-08-2023

(13-08-2023, 06:44 PM)ALV Wrote:  The UK feed is currently simulcasting the weekend evening bulletin. The EPG still shows Sportsday being scheduled at 1830.
[Image: 443452a7449c05ab3d7e34632d1aac25.png]
I couldn't observe a pattern on what circumstances will the UK feed take the weekend bulletins... Do they simulcast when it starts at :00/:30 or it's just a random decision?

It'll be the latter given 'random' is the modus operandi for the merged BBC News Channel, from schedules to presentation and professionalism.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Rolling News - 13-08-2023

I'm not sure how often the Sunday teatime bulletin falls at 6:30pm, but it may be because they couldn't use the sports studio in Salford for Sportsday as it was used for the sports part of the bulletin, therefore decided to simulcast.

(Not that I'm making excuses for them, and fully agree this whole merged channel is just one random mess where decisions are made on a whim on the hour).


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - interestednovice - 13-08-2023

Haha, Reith85, true!
That’s so much better put than my post.

On a serious note, though, they can’t really slot in a simulcast easily at, say, 5 minutes into an hour (unless they show varying-length filler such as the infamous guide dogs and possibly miss TOTH or BOTH junctions). Basically, it wouldn’t work unless they are willing to crash in and out of the global feed completely which is a presentational low they haven’t yet slumped to in UK daytime (probably peak viewing) hours.

On the other hand, they do it every single weeknight when Newsnight ends and they crash into Newsday (which is often proceeded by a crash into Newsnight curtailing the Ten) so it could happen.

Paul Royall alluded to some viewers just always “going to the News Channel when they want to see the news” as justification for simulcasting when asked directly about it on Newswatch, so I think the BBC like to simulcast where they can.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ginnyfan - 13-08-2023

The recent weekend line up of presenters makes the channel even less watchable. I thought the transition period was the last time we would see some of these interns but instead they have taken over.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Rolling News - 13-08-2023

(13-08-2023, 08:07 PM)ginnyfan Wrote:  The recent weekend line up of presenters makes the channel even less watchable. Sorry but I thought the transition period was the last time we would see some of these interns but instead they have taken over.

Every time I tune in now there seems to be someone new presenting. And it’s not just because it’s summer, it’s been this way since April.

For some reason, I thought the weekends would be the “presenter reporters”. Have they filled any more of these posts, or is it still just Nancy Kacungira?


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - interestednovice - 13-08-2023

They are filling-in freelancers and BBC staff from regions taking on the extra shifts because the BBC still, for some unknown reason, have not appointed any presenter-reporters other than Nancy K.

Eventually, we should see whoever gets those roles semi-regularly presenting on the channel and things should settle down into pretty predictable shifts.

If you take a look at the US operation, Carl and Helena are the presenter-reporters and they both present at weekends and also appear as reporters during the week. Presumably they both have weekend-equivalent days off midweek (but probably not the same days as each other). This way, on a typical day, you have Sumi and either Carl or Helena as an additional reporter (sometimes in the studio with analysis, other times on location).

I had a look at how the BBC One bulletin we were just discussing appeared on the NC via iPlayer’s rewind function, and interestingly Monika Plaha - who had presented the preceding half an hour of simulcast news - reappeared once the BBC One bulletin ended to provide 10 minutes of filler until the TOTH. Am I being too hopeful, or was this perhaps an experiment in allowing for a better UK feed using the same resources as the “main” feed during downtime from live news? Presumably the global feed was showing a recorded back half hour programme at the same time.