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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - DTV - 04-09-2023

(04-09-2023, 03:06 AM)Newsroom Wrote:  I do have to say that having watched the output from Washington over the weekend and indeed tonight that it is crystal clear they are staffed with a team of talented people. The running order is rarely the same unless Breaking News makes it impossible. It's the most enjoyable and acceptable output of the channel I've seen since it merged.

Generally, I'd say the best parts of the channel are the bits that are just BBC News. Though still a bit slower than it could be, the Euro Breakfast slot and late morning block have largely been better paced than the afternoon/evening branded slots whenever I've caught them. Even World News America seems to have caught a bit of the stodginess.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - matthieu1221 - 04-09-2023

(04-09-2023, 03:06 AM)Newsroom Wrote:  I do have to say that having watched the output from Washington over the weekend and indeed tonight that it is crystal clear they are staffed with a team of talented people. The running order is rarely the same unless Breaking News makes it impossible. It's the most enjoyable and acceptable output of the channel I've seen since it merged.

Had no idea what Helena Humphrey (presenting this eve) and Carl Nasman were Husband and wife - how perfect.

It also looks like they were both set to work for NBC Sky World News -- such a shame that it never materialised.  Happy that they've eventually gotten to work on a channel of a similar global caliber (at least the DC hours!).

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harshy - harshy - 04-09-2023

(03-09-2023, 08:24 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  That's simple but pretty well executed - looks better than most other recent efforts.

I think it’s from the division that produces all the trailers and stuff which are also produced to a higher standard it’s not from NBH that’s for sure.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - steve - 04-09-2023

I think today was a good example where the Channel just isn’t working.

The Today programme had genuinely agenda setting interviews this morning, and set up for a non-stop cascade of stories and developments through the day.

That was captured very well on Sky, rounded off with Ridge tonight. On the BBC, no sense of pace or purpose to grabbing their own agenda-setting and moving the story on.

Mainly because that’s almost impossible to do when you have two audiences to serve, and also because in politics it can be the drip-drip of multiple stories (schools, reshuffles, Pincher, etc) that creates a narrative and an agenda. None of which is big enough for a standalone stream/break out but together are important.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Radio_man - 04-09-2023

(04-09-2023, 09:58 PM)steve Wrote:  I think today was a good example where the Channel just isn’t working.

The Today programme had genuinely agenda setting interviews this morning, and set up for a non-stop cascade of stories and developments through the day.

That was captured very well on Sky, rounded off with Ridge tonight. On the BBC, no sense of pace or purpose to grabbing their own agenda-setting and moving the story on.

Mainly because that’s almost impossible to do when you have two audiences to serve, and also because in politics it can be the drip-drip of multiple stories (schools, reshuffles, Pincher, etc) that creates a narrative and an agenda. None of which is big enough for a standalone stream/break out but together are important.

This will be the situation of the next 12 months in the run up to the UK General Election. UK and US politics will be fighting for airtime and relevance on the channel. If the UK and US elections are both next autumn, with the UK election possibly late October or early November, with the US Presidential election also being on 5 November 2024, editorially it'll be a nightmare to get the right balance.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - AaronTV - 04-09-2023

(04-09-2023, 09:58 PM)steve Wrote:  I think today was a good example where the Channel just isn’t working.

The Today programme had genuinely agenda setting interviews this morning, and set up for a non-stop cascade of stories and developments through the day.

That was captured very well on Sky, rounded off with Ridge tonight. On the BBC, no sense of pace or purpose to grabbing their own agenda-setting and moving the story on.

Mainly because that’s almost impossible to do when you have two audiences to serve, and also because in politics it can be the drip-drip of multiple stories (schools, reshuffles, Pincher, etc) that creates a narrative and an agenda. None of which is big enough for a standalone stream/break out but together are important.

I’m just not convinced they would be setting the agenda any more effectively or developing any further insights on the day’s events on a UK only news channel watched by less than 100,000 people that’s entirely financially unviable. I just don’t buy it unfortunately. 

The network bulletins are designed to offer that analysis and reporting, and do so successfully to many millions of people. 

There are certainly broader arguments to be made about how BBC News as a whole seems to be struggling to get real scoops and lead the news agenda, but that was the case long before the channel’s merged. 

BBC News as a whole has a vast budget overall - if anything, not having a domestic channel to stretch services should be strengthening the quality of reporting on the network bulletins and online. 

In the run up to the election, I can certainly see the merits of a ‘The Campaign Today’ style program or even from the New Year a daily evening UK news/politics show, but it would only be viable if shown on BBC Two and BBC News (on the UK opt out). Right now, I think the audience is served absolutely fine IMO.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - DTV - 04-09-2023

(04-09-2023, 10:20 PM)AaronTV Wrote:  I’m just not convinced they would be setting the agenda any more effectively or developing any further insights on the day’s events on a UK only news channel watched by less than 100,000 people that’s entirely financially unviable. I just don’t buy it unfortunately.

I know that there is a tendency by many in this thread to overstate the reach and importance of the channel, but to suggest it is watched by less than 100,000 people (during an unspecified period) is as much an understatement in the other direction. Evening slots alone typically average that and, cumulatively, it reaches around 2m viewers per day - more than the News at One. It might not really possess agenda-setting powers, but that's more to do with it being a secondary outlet for the BBC rather than because of its audience - which tends to disproportionately include so-called 'opinion formers'.

I'm also not sure what financial viability has to do with it. As far as I know, the only UK-based news channel to ever turn a profit was BBC World News. Sky News seem to manage to do alright with agenda setting, despite being heavily financially reliant on the rest of Sky.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - GeeTeeKay474 - 05-09-2023

(03-09-2023, 09:12 AM)NickyS Wrote:  Anyone seen this before? Was ahead of the live feed of the Laura K prog on the BBC News website. Only a grab from the feed but the circles pulse.

I saw it on one of the Eurovision streams.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - harshy - 05-09-2023

Yesterday they played out titles with the named presenters, only the named presenter were somebody else sat at the chair, that happened to the Daily Global and the Context.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Rolling News - 05-09-2023

There’s someone I’ve never seen before doing the U.K. opt out this afternoon. She’s Catherine Byaruhanga and a quick Google search suggests she’s usually an Africa correspondent. 

   

Out of interest did she do the 7-9 World feed this morning too?

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