Pres Café
BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Printable Version

+- Pres Café (https://pres.cafe)
+-- Forum: Pres Café TV and Radio Forums (https://pres.cafe/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: News and Sport Presentation (https://pres.cafe/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Thread: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) (/showthread.php?tid=412)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - News76 - 14-10-2023

(14-10-2023, 11:13 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Have they continued without the usual weekend filler today?

Apart from a Global News Podcast special which was shown at both 2:30 & 9:30pm, yes.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ALV - 15-10-2023

The UK feed opted out of Breakfast some time this morning to continue covering the Israel–Hamas war (I'm not sure how and when exactly this happened)
[Image: c7864d885ba1dea2565209ab1dc5597a.png]

At 0830 they dropped pre-records on the World feed and continued with domestic UK news on both UK and World feed...
[Image: 1a062874050ceb5921b7adc09a209595.png]


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - LDN - 15-10-2023

(15-10-2023, 08:36 AM)ALV Wrote:  The UK feed opted out of Breakfast some time this morning to continue covering the Israel–Hamas war (I'm not sure how and when exactly this happened)
[Image: c7864d885ba1dea2565209ab1dc5597a.png]

At 0830 they dropped pre-records on the World feed and continued with domestic UK news on both UK and World feed...
[Image: 1a062874050ceb5921b7adc09a209595.png]

It happened at 0800. 

Went from the Click closing titles, into a few seconds of the filler countdown; then into a headline sequence with wipe animations but no logo/headline text. https://ibb.co/J76qBKW 


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - James2001 - 15-10-2023

(15-10-2023, 08:36 AM)ALV Wrote:  The UK feed opted out of Breakfast some time this morning to continue covering the Israel–Hamas war (I'm not sure how and when exactly this happened)
[Image: c7864d885ba1dea2565209ab1dc5597a.png]

At 0830 they dropped pre-records on the World feed and continued with domestic UK news on both UK and World feed...
[Image: 1a062874050ceb5921b7adc09a209595.png]

Ahh, I'm sure international viewers are fascinated by news of the SNP conference, it's not as if there's any real important global news...


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - FactorFiles - 16-10-2023

Not sure how unusual this is, but just now they had what appeared to be a "news in brief" bed under the "briefly some other news" segment, which actually turned out to be the closing bed, which seamlessly played out to the BOTH close.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - AndrewP - 16-10-2023

Waiting for the screencap sounds like someone planned it well


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - LDN - 16-10-2023

It's disappointing -- but not at all surprising - that there's been no mention at all on the BBC News channel of the bus crashing into a shop at Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester, an incident that took place two and a half hours ago, resulting in "a number of casualties" according to emergency services, and which was picked up by local Manchester news sources like MEN within 35 minutes of it happening.

The BBC finally published an online article about the crash around half an hour ago, but it seems particularly poor that this still hasn't even been mentioned on air as a brief piece of breaking news. Prior to the merger, this kind of news would quickly have made it to air on the old BBC News Channel, and you could expect regular updates on the story (even just a brief few words between other stories), and perhaps even a reporter on the scene if needed. 

Now, post-merger, the combined channel has of course been in international news mode with Verified Live, focusing largely on the Israel-Gaza conflict. But even when the Israel-Gaza coverage actually took a pause at 1515 for an in-brief round-up of UK stories, they just repeated the same three UK headlines from the 1415 round-up in a different order, with nothing about the Manchester crash, or any other UK story that might be developing. And nothing even when the UK opted out at 1530 before Rishi Sunak began his speech.

This Manchester incident is exactly the kind of live UK coverage that has suffered since the merger. It has no place on an international channel, but it's not 'major' enough to warrant opting out for dedicated UK coverage. It's a shame that this kind of developing domestic news, which the old BBC News Channel covered so capably, has been all but abandoned. 

And FFS, when one story is dominating TV coverage, why not use the ticker to provide a useful summary of other global and UK news stories? Instead, the ticker is just cycling through the same meagre handful of headlines, all related to Israel-Gaza and nothing else. 

That said, BBC News has always failed miserably in its misuse of the ticker in this way -- devoting it entirely to a single story when that event is dominating the headlines, instead of seeing the value in using the ticker to summarise all the other stories that aren't getting reported on air. 

What possible value does the BBC think it's providing viewers by showing them the same five headlines, all about the same story, on an endless 35-second loop for hours at a time?


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - interestednovice - 16-10-2023

This kind of “two lines update” could and should be easily covered during World feed ad breaks, but so far they haven’t been nimble enough to do it and they rely too much on Across the UK clips (which are not usually very current and are more magazine style, the kind of thing from an “And finally…” segment in the old days).

I’d like to see UK News in brief more often, less Across the U.K. and less filler content (trailers, etc) in general on the UK feed - there’s no need for it to go out on the global feed though.

I am hoping that they will eventually find their feet with the new channel and manage to do this better. Currently, for perhaps understandable reasons, the focus is on the World output - but they should be able to focus on both at once, somehow.


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - leewilliams - 17-10-2023

Never mind typos on the straps, we’re now seeing embarrassingly wrong words on there:

https://x.com/marc_tierney/status/1714043978570424627?s=46&t=OuG-53CJRHzzDVEPmDXGSg 


RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - kookaburra - 17-10-2023

(16-10-2023, 04:22 PM)interestednovice Wrote:  This kind of “two lines update” could and should be easily covered during World feed ad breaks, but so far they haven’t been nimble enough to do it and they rely too much on Across the UK clips (which are not usually very current and are more magazine style, the kind of thing from an “And finally…” segment in the old days).

I’d like to see UK News in brief more often, less Across the U.K. and less filler content (trailers, etc) in general on the UK feed - there’s no need for it to go out on the global feed though.

I am hoping that they will eventually find their feet with the new channel and manage to do this better. Currently, for perhaps understandable reasons, the focus is on the World output - but they should be able to focus on both at once, somehow.
Even so, there’s still news happening in the UK. I was wondering just before whether UK opt outs have increased in the last week or so to cover off on the day’s domestic news. Doesn’t sound like it?

I’ve had access to World for a couple of weeks (hello hotels) and the all Israel conflict all the time is a bit much and I’m flicking to another channel quite quickly. For comparison, the ABC Asia Pacific service, which is a hybrid of the domestic news channel and its own standalone bulletins, give the first couple of stories to the conflict before moving on.