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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - interestednovice - 21-03-2024

I’m in two minds about the new filler.

My initial reaction was that it looked nice but didn’t make any sense and really made it seem like BBC News as a channel was clearly “commercial” with the adverts covered up. However, it looked visually good and was less repetitive and irritating than the “Across the UK” filler they had been doing previously.

This would work very well in areas where the channel is on a public TV all day, with low or potentially no sound. I don’t think countdown-style music fits, I have to agree, so the V2 music is better. For this scenario, it is great.

However, for the at-home viewer, it is very obviously “filler” and will probably lead them to turn off. Once again, why are the BBC reinventing the wheel? Back in the old World News days, they always had “in brief” sections which covered a few stories (read by the presenter, with pictures and proper lower thirds). During Newsday, the London presenter would always cover UK news in-brief. That even required rapidly changing camera angles and it was in the middle of the night when hardly anyone was watching, but they still went to the effort!

So why not do a news in brief section, using the presenter already there, and then it’s less obvious that it’s filler? Obviously, it has to be timed right so that feeds with ads can join and leave correctly but a short sting should sort that out. As a bonus, if ads or opts fail to play out, a UK in brief section would not seem too out of place even for international viewers on a channel from the BBC.

Is it just that resources are so thin on the ground that they don’t even have producers spare to put together pictures, lower thirds and the small extra amount of script needed to do it? I don’t know.

Also, I agree with others that the way they “crash” in and out of opts these days, unacknowledged and without stings, etc, is so odd and really needs looking at. Viewers don’t know what is going on when a presenter goes: “Around the world, and across the UK, this is BBC News” and then stares at them blankly. Even weirder when they then return, stare again for a short time, and then go “Live from London, this is BBC News”.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ViridianFan - 22-03-2024

I came across on YouTube a compilation of bbc world stings from the clam shell era. I had never seen bbc world back then burn from the clips it looked like we everyrhing flowed and didn’t seem so disjointed. Even news 24 had the sting at the half hour.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Frances - 22-03-2024

They tweaked the filler music again on Thursday - the volume of the drums and pips and has been turned down but compared with Wednesday’s version I felt it’s ‘less smooth’ than before.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - AJB39 - 22-03-2024

(21-03-2024, 08:18 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Not seen it mentioned but Nicky Campbell was back on the channel today at 10.30am to take reaction to the WASPI news. Was a fairly seemless opt in.

Nicky Campbell is filling the back half hour in the 9 and 10am hours this morning on the UK feed of the News Channel. I’ve seen this happen on other days I’ve been off work as well. This seems to be the preferred way of broadcasting the show at the moment.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Brekkie - 22-03-2024

With two major stories breaking simultaneously, one UK focused and one internationally, have the UK and World feeds split this evening?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - AJB39 - 22-03-2024

(22-03-2024, 08:23 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  With two major stories breaking simultaneously, one UK focused and one internationally, have the UK and World feeds split this evening?

No. They have both been exactly the same since 6pm.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - London Lite - 22-03-2024

(22-03-2024, 08:23 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  With two major stories breaking simultaneously, one UK focused and one internationally, have the UK and World feeds split this evening?

World and Domestic took the first 18 minutes of the BBC News at Six including the breaking news of a shooting in Moscow before going to Ben Thompson in C.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - seamus - 22-03-2024

The World feed split about 10 minutes ago to go with the rolling news about Moscow, Lewis Vaughan Jones is hosting the opt out.


Edit: It's actually very impressive in quality, it's not just a broom cupboard narrating over footage, there are live reporter interviews from the NBH newsroom, full guest interviews etc. It's imperceptible from "old World" rolling coverage. No pausing for TOTH or countdown, coverage continues.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - AJB39 - 22-03-2024

(22-03-2024, 08:53 PM)seamus Wrote:  The World feed split about 10 minutes ago to go with the rolling news about Moscow, Lewis Vaughan Jones is hosting the opt out.


Edit: It's actually very impressive in quality, it's not just a broom cupboard narrating over footage, there are live reporter interviews from the NBH newsroom, full guest interviews etc. It's imperceptible from "old World" rolling coverage. No pausing for TOTH or countdown, coverage continues.

It’s very well done but weird to see World opting out of the UK feed rather then the other way around.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ginnyfan - 22-03-2024

Good on World for opting out. There's nothing to be said about Kate's story, as sad as it is. Moscow news is developing and will have proper worldwide consequences.

Good coverage from Lewis Vaughan Jones who has become one of BBC's best at rolling news coverage.

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