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harshy - harshy - 04-04-2023

(04-04-2023, 06:34 PM)Worzel Wrote:  

(04-04-2023, 06:26 PM)harshy Wrote:  Not a clue and I been watching world since 2000, I was watching yesterday and this new channel makes no sense to people who been so used to one channel style which worked for years.

What can you chop down to 5 minutes on a programme like that?

Was it... 'Welcome to Mexico, you can go Loco in Acapulco. That's all we've got time for now, thanks for watching and goodbye'.

Few times I seen it it was just one of the reports off the full episode it is strange though never understood why World do this.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - damian - 04-04-2023

(04-04-2023, 06:33 PM)ALV Wrote:  At the end of the NaS, the UK feed used an opt-in sting with a voiceover from the World feed announcer, then faded into the World feed for continuing coverage:

"Breaking news from around the world, 24 hours a day. - This is BBC News."

https://streamable.com/afcdvl 

Btw does anyone know the name of the announcer for the World feed ident? I've never seen anyone mentioned it back in the TVF era. This female announcer has been around at least during the red clamshell era on BBC World. I actually like her voice but sometimes certain voiceovers are recorded in a hurry and sounded weird.

 
I’ve been meaning to ask this too and to see what type of other work she has done.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Keith - 04-04-2023

I wonder what impact if any the Easter holidays are having on BBC News. Ordinarily it probably wouldn't have been the ideal time to implement such major changes. I think it's reasonable to assume the new financial year has been a major factor in the timing chosen.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Transmission - 04-04-2023

This Trump stream on the front page of iPlayer has been a bit odd/interesting. Started at 14:15 with Lewis Vaughan Jones and later a female presenter, both in voiceover only (and not with great mics, either). At times they were doing fairly complex things like live interviews with reporters on camera at the scene, at other times they were just silently sitting on live pictures for minutes on end. At 17:00, when things were actually starting to happen, the feed switched to the actual news channel output with Matthew Amroliwala.

Seems to be from the breaking news team again, but as this time their output wasn't going out on the main channel it was a bit more basic and they didn't need to keep filling while waiting for something to happen. I think the fact that yesterday's sentencing coverage was also one of these streams on the front page of iPlayer is why they weren't going off to other UK stories when it was clear there would be a wait for anything to happen - while that would've been a good idea for the sake of news channel viewers, the feed was labelled as just being about that one story which might be why they felt the need to keep rolling with it.

You do get the sense that the higher-ups see this sort of pop-up feed as the future (when it comes to live TV in general, really).

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ginnyfan - 04-04-2023

Good get for BBC to have Ronan Farrow as part of their coverage.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Worzel - 04-04-2023

(04-04-2023, 07:11 PM)Transmission Wrote:  This Trump stream on the front page of iPlayer has been a bit odd/interesting. Started at 14:15 with Lewis Vaughan Jones and later a female presenter, both in voiceover only (and not with great mics, either). At times they were doing fairly complex things like live interviews with reporters on camera at the scene, at other times they were just silently sitting on live pictures for minutes on end. At 17:00, when things were actually starting to happen, the feed switched to the actual news channel output with Matthew Amroliwala.

Seems to be from the breaking news team again, but as this time their output wasn't going out on the main channel it was a bit more basic and they didn't need to keep filling while waiting for something to happen. I think the fact that yesterday's sentencing coverage was also one of these streams on the front page of iPlayer is why they weren't going off to other UK stories when it was clear there would be a wait for anything to happen - while that would've been a good idea for the sake of news channel viewers, the feed was labelled as just being about that one story which might be why they felt the need to keep rolling with it.

You do get the sense that the higher-ups see this sort of pop-up feed as the future (when it comes to live TV in general, really).

Were there 2 different teams outputting, basically, the same thing today? The Breaking News team on iPlayer and then Matthew on the channel? 

If that's the case, why didn't they just rebroadcast the channel output on a separate dedicated iPlayer/Live stream?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Transmission - 04-04-2023

(04-04-2023, 07:19 PM)Worzel Wrote:  Were there 2 different teams outputting, basically, the same thing today? The Breaking News team on iPlayer and then Matthew on the channel? 

If that's the case, why didn't they just rebroadcast the channel output on a separate dedicated iPlayer/Live stream?

Yep, for those first 3-ish hours anyway. I think because the news channel was going away to lots of other stories (NATO/Finland in particular) while the Breaking News team coverage was happy to sit on a shot of Trump tower while nothing was happening. Once the news channel was fully in rolling mode on the Trump story, it switched to a simulcast of that.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Jimbo2022 - 04-04-2023

What a farce.

I have come to the conclusion that firmer BBC world should be on UK feed all the time now on the grounds that:

1 BBC1 bulletins are of course the domestic bulletins. They have always been on bbc1. No need for simulcasting.

2 Breakfast also is a simulcast but has BSL. But why not put BSL on iPlayer as a separate stream? Itv have ITV Signed on ITVX. It is possible the main reason for simulcasting on UK feed us because of BSL requirements and I have no issue with that - but in future surely it fits better in iPlayer like ITV Signed on ITVX. Same argument for any news bulletin needing BSL.

3 Newsnight not needed in UK feed either as it us in BBC2 and always has been since it started (1980 I think?)

4 Nicky Campbell show NOT needed on former news channel either. It us a RADIO phone-in. Radio 5 Live DID have a webcam feed on iPlayer - or mire precisely in 5 live website. That is the place for a radio simulcast - NOT on a regular television channel. BBC should bring back the 5 live webcam because otherwise, we will lose 30 minutes of UK focussed news at 1030 UK time when World has Hard Talk
The other 90 minutes are a simulcast if world - we would nit see this if 5 live were simulcast instead.

5 the 1800 switch tonight - at the end of the bulletin, one if the screens had Sportsday on it. That I assume was not broadcast tonight is that correct?

6 BBC Parliament us a simulcast of whatever goes out in BBC news UK due to recess. If UK feed must be separate from world, why not put world out on BBC parliament outside term time in future instead of triplicating BBC1 bulletins et? The Fred used in UK has no ads so can be used to fill gap on parliament. If not, why not?

It seemed crazy to opt out of world to take a domestic bulletin broadcast on bbc1 whose lead story was exactly what world had.

Ridiculous.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - steve - 04-04-2023

I can see why they have opted for this approach - a live team who go live on one story and roll with it either just on the live page or, where relevant (as yesterday) on the UK feed.

Like it or not, this is the way the majority consume news-as-it-happens is going - and, while much of the implementation has been questionable, I can’t disagree with the concept.

The 1,6 and 10 are the bulletins where the vast majority of the audience get their news. They are appointment to view and I’m sure will remain as a curated bulletin for many years.

The channel now adds value (it’s not for everyone but for some it adds value!) of having talking heads and not just intros and reports (which you can read or watch anytime you want).

But when there is breaking news, whereas in the past I’d have stuck on a news channel, now there are so many sources I can follow this myself. Now, I know it’s not for everyone and I know plenty who can’t do that, but I can see why the BBC see that having a curated but organic breaking news service is the way forward. A live stream combining text, video and analysis that you can trust makes sense. And, for the vast majority of the audience, that only needs to exist when there is a story they want to know about.

Clunky, definitely. Clumsily presented, 100%. But the rationale is obvious and I can see why they think it’s working okay - or (and this is key), exactly as it’s designed to.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - UTVLifer - 04-04-2023

It feels like Yalda and her guests have been repeating themselves on a loop for most of the last 90 minutes

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